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Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491532 10/02/17 11:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 125 volleyfire Sidelock
volleyfire Sidelock Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 125	Daryl, I believe your gun is by the best Lefever engraver Joseph Loy. Steve

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season GLS #491542 10/03/17 09:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 582 Big D wingshooter16 Sidelock
wingshooter16 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 582 Big D	Originally Posted By: GLS A work in progress, pending delivery and refinish. MF Ideal 302 16 gauge from the mid 1930's. Hope to get it in my hands by spring or early summer. Photos are from the sales ad which could be magnified on the site, but aren�t good copies which will guarantee the �after� photos will make the gun look a whole lot better. Here�s where I lifted the photos below. http://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusil-MANUFRANCE-Ideal-302-Calibre-16-65-item-3438055.html The engraving on the sides is a little different from the French guns I�ve seen. The images in the link will �embiggen� if clicked. Before buying, a knowledgeable collector had his hands on the gun and gave the �go ahead� on barrels and metalwork condition. Not the belle of the ball in comparison with the others shown in this thread, but definitely something I�ll be very pleased to own and shoulder. Hope this post isn�t the Anticipatory Kiss of Death and /or Misdelivery. Gil Chin up, Gil. You actually have a tracking number! Tolerance: the abolition of absolutes Consistency is the currency of credibility

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491549 10/03/17 10:33 AM
Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 111 Utah's Wasatch mountains TMair Sidelock
TMair Sidelock Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 111 Utah's Wasatch mountains	What a lot of beautiful guns!! Congrats to all of you!! Terry

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491551 10/03/17 10:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,557 Likes: 396 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,557 Likes: 396 Bozeman, Mt.	Thanks Volleyfire and all of you who commented. The gun did catch my eye when I saw it, especially the engraving . Another friend who retails thousands of guns did suggest Joseph Loy as the engraver. I am not qualified to say, but do have a couple of favorite known engravers which I can recognize. This is not one of them. Another friend pointed out that the engraving reminded him of some Nichols and Lefever guns and also a John Nichols. I do notice the gun's locks appear identical to those used by Nichols and Lefever, and John Nichols. Probably the same lock source from England. I understand there are knowledgeable Remington collectors who know something on Giddings. It would be fun to hear from them. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PqK3UImDCrsOrk6O_2DsovHXvaNSzliSiwaP35Y6PMk/edit?tab=t.0

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491639 10/04/17 09:58 PM
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC Owenjj3 OP Sidelock
OP Owenjj3 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC	Couldn�t resist a closeup. /IMG Or two... /IMG Last edited by Owenjj3; 07/06/18 06:06 PM. Owen

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491687 10/05/17 11:19 AM
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC Owenjj3 OP Sidelock
OP Owenjj3 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC	PALUNC's Dickson: What a beauty!!! Owen

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491688 10/05/17 11:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,752 Likes: 708 Ontario, Canada canvasback Sidelock
canvasback Sidelock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,752 Likes: 708 Ontario, Canada	Do guns qualify for this thread if they weren't acquired this year but this is the first year (due to restoration) that they will be seeing hunting duty? Last edited by canvasback; 10/05/17 11:23 AM. The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491694 10/05/17 12:07 PM
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC Owenjj3 OP Sidelock
OP Owenjj3 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 732 Likes: 127 WNC	Absolutely...I think they would qualify if they have been in the safe but are being hunted for the first time this season. Owen

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491726 10/05/17 02:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,403 Likes: 17 Pennsylvania Walter C. Snyder Sidelock
Walter C. Snyder Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,403 Likes: 17 Pennsylvania	+1 for Loy engraving on Daryl's gun. Walter c. Snyder

Re: New Guns 2017-2018 Season Owenjj3 #491770 10/05/17 05:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,752 Likes: 708 Ontario, Canada canvasback Sidelock
canvasback Sidelock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,752 Likes: 708 Ontario, Canada	Okay, here is one of mine that is going afield this fall for the first time since coming into my possession. I had it out two weekends ago at Griffith Island and dropped a bunch of pheasants. Will be taking it to the Sandhills in Nebraska for a week later this month and after that up to the north shore of Lake Superior. It is a Lovena 12 gauge sidelock from Prague circa 1920-1925. Weight is 6 pounds 9 ounces. Stocked to the fences, bushed firing pins, articulated front trigger, cocking indicators, straight stock, ejectors, etc. I had the barrels re-blued as there was little finish left when I bought it. I also had the stock refinished (and glass bedded for good measure at the same time). It has 2 1/2" chambers, 28"barrels choked IM and IM, likely not original. The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia

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