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Hmmm. One has to wonder how British Damascus guns pass nitro proof.
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First hand report is he wasn't hurt physically. What bout the mental aspeck of shooting? Shooter was alledgedly well know tourny man whose often been sponsored by a gun maker. Start of flinching or other impack on shooting?
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The only other case of maybe a damascus gun letting go was years ago at Sandanona. A 28 ga who's maker I can't recall. I think the verdict was very thin walls and again inappropriate cartridges. It was discussed here back then. I'll try to find the discussion. that was a British made gun had walls that measured in the low teens lots of honing to get those shiney bores - i expect they would have failed with almost any ammo
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First hand report is he wasn't hurt physically. What bout the mental aspeck of shooting? Shooter was alledgedly well know tourny man whose often been sponsored by a gun maker. Start of flinching or other impack on shooting? That seems like a strange question to ask here. Besides, it is unanswerable. SRH
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Hmmm. One has to wonder how British Damascus guns pass nitro proof. Some pass some fail. To save time and expense they usually have competent gunsmith look over a piece to see if it is a candidate for re-proof. One does have to admit the proof system works and it withstood test of time. Their guns will fail in controlled environment our will fail in shooters hands.
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....Some pass some fail. To save time and expense they usually have competent gunsmith look over a piece to see if it is a candidate for re-proof. One does have to admit the proof system works and it withstood test of time. Their guns will fail in controlled environment our will fail in shooters hands. So, do you believe the 'proof system' is a work of art? Neither gunsmiths nor time are law enforcement officers or legislators. You're lucky dream in an echo chamber of absolute guarantees. I think we should proof people so that they only fail in safe zones, not out in public.
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No. What I'm really saying antique shotgun with recent proof marks is worth a premium. Life is frustrating I was looking through used guns at LGS near nice working class American looking for affordable gun to shoot. Pulled out fusil a pompe Manufrance in excellent condition. Everything sod could hope for in $150 shoty: nicely blued light contour chromed bore barrel choked half, cut-checkered walnut stock with nice recoil pad, alloy receiver (along with light barrel giving nice handling) chromed steel bolt, plus St. Etienne proof for modern gun with 70mm chambers. He still took used Mossberg for $200.  People very hard to understand, yes?
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Which you would never pay.
There is nothing you feel unqualified to comment on.
"One does have to admit"
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Which you would never pay.
There is nothing you feel unqualified to comment on.
"One does have to admit"
I would if I wanted old' game gun with damascus barrels. It's worth extra to lessen chance of something going to pieces in ones arms. I don't understand why you would suggest something like that. I mean I pay for homeowners insurance, car insurance,.....health insurance which I don't really use, but may need. Living in USA we do stuff like this all the time.
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"If"
Which you don't, and never will.
Why don't you go to a Harley forum and tell them about BMWs?
And thanks for the edit and the charming fabricated story.
Last edited by Shotgunjones; 09/30/17 10:51 AM. Reason: Jager is a dufus
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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