Well Ted, we've sparred a bit.....I just want to make amends and give credit where credit is due. The Model 17, I will likely not see again, and I'm ok with that. One thing I remember about that gun, it had an exceptionally good trigger. I've seen many competition guns whose triggers were no way as good. They are very good guns. If I found a cherry down the road, I might go for it, but to be frank, I've got enough shotguns to get me through the long haul. But, you never know with us shotgun guys. Hehe.

Socialism is almost the worst.