Interesting to know as I use Eley 2 inch or my own reloads but have bought some Lyalvale; about 100, and not yet used them. Although they will be safe in a 2" gun due to CIP compliance part of the joy of a 2" 12 bore is the light handling and lack of recoil. I will try a few in a 6 pound plus gun first. Lagopus.....