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Not shotguns but the winchester centennials, commemoratives and the boxes command a very good price in my part of the world. A box without the gun is around $500 and the gun unfired without box is $1000 - $1500 depending on which centennial or commemorative and caliber and a few go over $2000.
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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57 you say. I had a fellow working for me who had one. 57 Belair Coupe, 283 fuel injected, black and white colors, one owner. He bought it while working for a local chevy dealer. It was one hot car in its days. Everyone who saw it had to stop and talk about it. If he did not like you he would not pop the hood or show you it had fuel injectors. Few ever learned that it did. Most never knew you could get fuel injector on a 283 in 57 in any chevy. God knows how many people tried to buy it from him.
Poor fellow ended up with Alzheimer's and spent his last year in a nursing home. Don't know who bought his car but I doubt they knew he had an extra fuel injected motor for it over his garage. They might have found it when they were cleaning out his parts collection. He was a bit of a pack rat. By the end he could not know what he had.
Heck of a nice guy. He did odd jobs for me on the farms. His nerves were shot from WWII. He carried a flame thrower, which he truley hated. Had to get up close and personal which he said was bad enough. He said when you lit it off every person in the other side would start shooting at you because they figured they could be next and everyone hated those flames. Nasty way to die. Hmm. You didn't happen to notice if the car had 6 lug wheels, did you? http://www.57chevyblackwidow.com/facts.htmlI've seen a few of these. Not cheap. Best, Ted
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Every thought about how silly some of us view the myriad of guns made to be "collectible" instead of shot and how many people fall for the trap? If you make a new gun and add a little extra half axx moderate machine engraving, then add a serial number to say it is one of five hundred or even fifty is it really collectible? To me this is like all those Franklin Mint coins or plates which are just a fake collectible item that will never gain in value. Or the Ruger Red Label with a little simple engraving claiming to be one of fifty special edition guns. Come on they are still a Red Label at heart.
Been looking for a Winchester 42 .410 for early dove season and preserve birds. Found one that suits my needs. It is a "fake collectible" in my book that has seen very light use. Glad it has been shot because it is neither a rare Winchester 42 or a unfired, nib gun. It is one of the 42's that Winchester had made for them in Japan. But I was thinking that since it is not a real collectible I'd would shoot it anyways than let it sit in my gun room gathering dust for the next sucker looking for a wannabe collectible gun. Then you have the Browning labeled Japanese made copies of the Winchester model 12 and 42 in the Citori grade VI which Winchester never made with fake looking Gold inlays. That's a double or triple fake collectible in my book. A Japanese copy of a American gun with stuff added to it which never came on the original to start with. Like a Chinese made, 56 Chevy repro with a turbo charged 4 cylinder motor and neon light under the frame. Yum what a collectible car that would be. They make better: cars, motorcycles, electronics, mass-produced knives,.....and not surprisingly better mass produced guns. Buy Japanese guns and use with confidence they don't break or wear out easily. If members of each race used their brains to full potential I suspect Asians would come on top.
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Ted, I just spent half an hour going over old photographs from that time and can not find one of Vick or his car. Sad. I thought a lot of Vick and all that he endured. That car would have been bought on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, so I suspect a Detroit origin, which may have been a six lug wheel, but who knows. Old Mr. Vick grew up very poor, only child, whose parents died when he was young, before the war, had a hard life for the most part, married after the war and had no children and only ever bought that one car brand new he told me. Since he would have been over 40 by then, it must have been like making it big to him. He was very proud of that car and it truly could fly. Heck, the owner of the nursing home might have bought it for $500, it being "just" a old car.
He was the first man I every knew who had served in the Italian campaign with General Clark and then later in the Pacific. Both times stuck carrying that flame thrower. In July '44 he was wounded, bad burns wouldn't you know it and returned to the States. Just before Christmas he got loaded up on a train, then a boat and sent to the Pacific. He figured a week later and they would have sent him back to Europe and right into the Battle of the Bulge. Until the hit the Pacific war he though he had dodge a bullet. Flame throwers got a lot of use on the islands. I thought he was kidding me when he first told me he had been in both Europe and the Pacific wars but he was not. Sometimes bad luck is just being available, when needs drive the Devil. They were scraping up replacements and he was there for them to ship out, the next month they were scraping up bodies to plug into the cannon fodder of the Bulge. He still hated both the Germans and the Japaneses when I knew him.
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Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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Our 42 repro fake collectible came with Briley CTs. The install would set me back $250 + shipping today. Condition better than 98% and paid $600.
We use it for subgauge and, sometimes, fluff 12 events. Think I can score a bit better with .410 tubes in a P-stick, but not certain. The 42 is more fun, sure.
VR 42s make nice range guns, but prefer round bbl originals for grouse/WC.
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Collectibles don't have to be old or even valuable to be collected by some group, mostly people who have some sense of order and enjoy collecting with like people. Pez, third generation Colts, stamps, matchbook covers, baseball cards, basketball shoes, etc. , are all collectibles to someone. The list is endless, and some prices astronomical. Our gun collections may not be worth much to a shoe collector.
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Some guys collect ex-wives.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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That's a very expensive collectible. One was enough for me.
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From watching what happened to my friends, I decided that it is cheaper to keep the same old woman I've had all these years. Next month it will be 52 years + 5 dating.
Mike
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