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Yep, that's a dove killing machine for sure. Only think I'd change if I had ordered it was a longer LOP. Beautiful gun.
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At over 7 pounds a gun built by Perazzi for a specific use possibly competition?
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Would be a great competition gun, sure. But there is a need for double guns with a bit of heft, such as high volume shooting. This gun is literally crying out Cordoba! Cordoba! Most grouse and woodcock only hunters don't understand the need for a gun over 6 lbs. Fact is, most people who don't carry a gun in the woods all day want something a little heavier because they can shoot it better, and it absorbs a lot of recoil on high volume days. I've put 1200 rounds a day through a 687 SP II Sporting, and could appreciate a few more ounces at the end of the day.
Perazzis aren't for wimps.
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Looks like a duck gun considering the engraving. How many days and minutes until the dove opener Stan?
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Seven pounds, four ounces.
Covered with ducks.
Chambered for... 2 3/4".
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For a Perazzi MX8 20 configured like this one, I would have expected 3 inch chambers. I suspect either an error in the ad or a special order requesting 2 3/4".
I would be extremely happy to own it either way.
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It has ducks on it, so it has to be a duck gun?
So, is the Guerini Ellipse Curve a woman gun?
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Stan, how did your Beretta hold up with all that pounding?
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It's probably my screen, but it might be a bit of a nicer gun if the duck pics were scrapped and the extra was put into finer scroll work.
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It did 100% of the gunning in Argentina twice, a total of approximately 10,000 rounds in a total of 48 hours of shooting, plus 14 years of dove shooting and clays here, and it's never failed once. Ejectors have never broken, and the single trigger has never failed, doubled or in any way hiccuped. After hundreds of fast paced rounds in Argentina I would have to run a chamber brush in it a few times to restore full strength ejection. The hot barrels would build up with plastic residue in the chambers.
It is most likely the last modern made gun I own that I would ever sell.
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Seven pounds, four ounces.
Covered with ducks.
Chambered for... 2 3/4".
? Light weight and svelt compared to a 20-gauge Super-Fox, or my 32-inch barrel, 2-frame, Parker Bros. 20-gauge!! Dem web footed fowls look a lot better then Parker Bros. "flying turnips."
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Yes, Researcher, but it's 2017.
SIX and a quarter pound guns are routinely chambered for 20 gauge 3" these days. I find 2 3/4" chambers curious. 'Why' eludes me.
As far as maybe being a special order, there's no telling but the fact is that it's for sale by a dealer now.
Sales departments usually hedge heir bets on bird guns, and use more than one species of bird on a general purpose gun. Appeals to a wider audience that way. Very few rim fire rifles have engravings of big game animals, and it's not likely you will find a bunny chiseled on a 470.
As far as the girl on the gun... that's a sure sign you're going to have trouble with it.
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I love that pistol grip design and that deeply-grooved sunburst grip cap. Wood don't get any better than that, either. JR
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Only if you don't buy an endless stream of flowers and jewelry and dinners and so on and so forth.
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It's not too hard for me to understand why the gun does not have 3" chambers. I've burned tens of thousands of 20 ga. shells in my life ......... and not the first 3" one. Not one.
Maybe there is a gunmaker, or a shooter somewhere who orders a gun, that understands not everyone wants to shoot 12 ga. shells in a 20 ga. gun.
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The downside of a 3" chambering would be.... ?
It would certainly appeal to a wider audience, hell it might even sell.
I agree it is a beautiful gun, and I would look stunning behind it.
There seems to be a shortfall in my shooting budget however... I'm about 178 Big Bens short.
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If that gun had a standard checkered top lever rather than the pierced top lever that the Italians seem to love, a case colored fully scroll engraved receiver, Perazzi's version of the POW grip & solid top & side ribs you would really have something.
Love the wood, checkered side panels, bbl length, weight & 2 3/4" chambers!
Oh, & leave off the gold plated trigger.
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The downside of a 3" chambering would be.... ?
It would certainly appeal to a wider audience, hell it might even sell.
That would prolly be a good marketing move were this a production gun, but it's not. Production guns need to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Guns like this don't. SRH
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Well, it does now. It's on the block for whatever reason.
'We just ain't seein' eyeball to eyeball here' - Foghorn Leghorn
Let's see how long it takes to find a new owner.
It's a great gun.... but for 18 Very Large, I'd need it to be perfect - for me, not the guy who ordered it. 3" chambers and an extra 1/2" pull would do it.
I could live with the ducks, although they pale in comparison to my Rem 11.
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I'll wager it's perfect for somebody. If the gentleman who picked up the 15 1-4# Westley Richards .600NE for $120,000 and 100 rounds of ammo at $32/ea. at the range where I was shooting last Saturday felt it was perfect enough for him there is certainly someone out there for this Perazzi.
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I could make do, if necessary.
But I just betcha... if the owner/specifier of the gun sold it to the dealer the first thing out of the dealer's mouth was....
'Pity no 3" chambers'
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I'm a recent Rizzini convert myself Gary.
Do me a favor... if you will...
If those guns have Anson style forend latches, and I think they do (push button on the front end of the forend), see if the set screw that holds the button shaft in place is tight.
It's likely a 1.5 mm hex drive set screw.
This was a problem on mine, the damn button departed the gun.
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Those are nice, GaryW. I've had a Rizzini made Verona 28/410, 30" barreled set for several years, but had to add a 1/4" high rib to mine on both sets of barrels. Just not enough drop for me on Rizzinis and Guerinis. I shoot high with them all.
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Artemis special has the push rod release....Vertex has a button latch in the middle of the forearm....thanks for the heads up on the push button issue.
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Both Rizzinis have 3" chambers, slightly overbored barrels, and are guaranteed for steel shot.
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I would be hard pressed to put that Rizzini in my kayak and float down the crick with it jumping ducks. A nice blind or some field hunting though that would be perfect for because I wouldn't let it get anywhere near the water especially deep water.
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