Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Originally Posted By: Wonko the Sane


There is no "hole" for the target to fly in in 3 dimensions in a dynamic situation. But it is a traditional excuse that has some real use level so it cannot be discredited. Alternate facts have a long and illustrious history.



Wonko, have you looked at the photos in Brister's book? The ones of patterns shot at stationary targets vs moving targets? A 2D pattern--which you get when you fire at the traditional pattern plate or paper--is as good as it will ever get, because you've eliminated the 3rd dimension: time. A swarm of pellets doesn't fly through the air like a pie plate. It's more like a cone. And depending on distance and angle--the greater the distance and the closer to 90 degrees the angle, the more pronounced the effect--there will indeed be holes in a pattern shot at a moving target that aren't there when you shoot at a stationary target. Brister's photos of pattern sheets resulting from shots fired at moving targets demonstrate that very clearly.


Brister was not shooting at moving targets he was shooting at a moving pattern plate. The motion of the target is wholly unaccounted for. What with the random nature of shotgun shot swarms and a total lack of some methodology to present a cogent and consistent representation of the event in action I will be forced to retain my opinion that holes do not exist from the perspective of the target in a dynamic situation. This of course probably does not include shooting #4's at a 100 yd target or some other reductio ad absurdum contention. I'm talking real life not some fantasy.


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