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In my often disregarded opinion, this is not a German made gun; rather, I believe it is a Belgian gun, marketed in Germany. The term "Brevette" would be used in Belgium(or France), not likely in Germany. The gun pre-dates the German 1891 proof law, so this would be the top end of any estimated date of manufacture.
Mike
Last edited by Der Ami; 04/11/17 10:16 AM.
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I concur for that H. Godin hailed from Herstal and that the platform was commenced there but I'm not sure that the etched pattern welded pattern was completed there seeing I do not see any Belgian marks. Franz Kettner more than likely sourced it and finished it or had it finished. If H. Godin is the owner of the noted breveté / brevet d'invention, the APUN number on the underlever would put it @ some date near the date of filing for protection being nummer 609. Advances in weapons technology were changing rapidly, including powder. H. Godin's contributions would have been top shelf for say 10 years from his 1856 filing, & possibly a bit more. So a client more than likely wanted H. Godin's plaform/bascule système H. Godin or something similar being the latest & greatest; therefore, Franz Kettner obliged him and relieved him of some cash. Not sure how many H. Godin's APUNs are out there, but 609 doesn't seem to be that many. The date may be on the buttplate or on the reverse side.
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Haven't unearthed any additional patent info for Armurier H. Godin à Herstal but seems as if there were a couple of Godins active in the 1800s: H. Godin - 1850 - 1857 M. Godin 1800s? http://mallorquina.pagesperso-orange.fr/source/pageG.htmCheers, Raimey rse
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Another Godin who attained the rank of Master Mechanic:
Jean Louis Mathieu Godin - 1810-1886 - Maître armurier. Might be the M. Godin noted above.
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OK thanks for the information.
So,mid 1860's at the latest seems to be the consensus?
I must admit that was my pick just looking at it but the smaller hammers threw me.
Any opinion on the barrel length? they seem a bit short but appear original.
I don't have any info on where it came from as yet but will enquire,but as it never had any German proof marks applied post 1891 as I believe was normal practise maybe its been out of that country since that time.
I have discovered it has a cracked bridle on one lock and one of the hammer spurs needs attention any recommendations to repairing it?
Cheers,
GDU.
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Man, you Kiwis and Ozzie's seem to run accross some great guns Between wealth from gold and wool, along with British colonization and abundant small game, plenty of fine guns made it out here and remain here.
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