Ted, at 8-10 paces that lesson might be taught with a brick. Handguns, carry guns, create a opinions like women...Some like blondes, some don't. I think the 357 is a marvelous cartridge, but I thought we were arguing makers, not calibers. Had the 1911 been available when I rode with Hoods Texans in the war of Northern Aggression, it would have been my choice. Alas, it was not. I deplore your tendency toward violence but respect your choice in pistol makers, poor as it is.