Stan, I think part of the two tight patterns is because of plastic wads. Guns which struggled to throw 60% patterns with period ammo now throw 70-75% patterns. Then the decline of two barrel guns, with two different chokes hurt. Not having a more open choke, to make near shots much easier, shooters elect to just go with an open choke to start with. Then with the decline of good dog work, pass shooting birds at a distance are much harder for people to find so they tend to not take those long shots which I use practice as a kid. We would shoot black birds, grackles and pigeons as they flew by at 30-50 yards. Great fun and a great learning experience.

Last edited by KY Jon; 03/22/17 09:10 AM.