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Bartlett, it may have been completely wrecked but looking at it I would have thought that it could have been saved and worth it by sleeving. That is before it was deactivated. After that there is little to base a rebuild on. Shame with that one. Here that gun would cease to be a firearm and free from any restrictions and could be bought sold and possessed by anyone here in the U.K. I guess it was some sort of restriction in the U.S. that would prevent its import for some reason. Maybe the length issue. I found that there was little market for deactivated hammerless guns. It seems that everyone wanted hammer guns for wall hangers. As I say, I would only do that to absolute no hopers in order to save them from the melting pot. Lagopus.....

A shame none the less.
Karl

Heck if I was younger I would sit in front of every police station and offer to buy all the turn ins.

"Are you turning in that Purdey?"

"Yes, regretfully so."

"I'll take it."

Guns are only art when they are clean, functioning, and well cared for.

The photos of the Pape, above, are stomach turning.

Best,
Ted

Yes it is.

Yes I am rather certain it could have been saved by sleeving. Unfortunately someone choose to pay for it to be essentially destroyed instead. As to the problem acquiring it that, as I recall, was more on the seller's side with hesitation over shipping it to the USA. A great shame.

Jeremy

Changed my post. I thought a deactivated sawn off could only be held for use in theatre/TV or security training in the UK but have now seen plenty for sale claiming to have "shortened barrel certs"
Does anyone know for sure ?

As far as I know that after de-activation they cease to be a firearm so there would be no offence in shortening it. After all is in only a piece of inert metal and wood by then. It would only be an offence to possess it in relation to a further crime such as robbery as that covers both a firearm or imitation firearm. I've seen two lengths of copper pipe held together with black tape and part concealed in a black bin liner used in an 'armed' robbery.

Bartlett, that may have been the case as I once wanted a small screw called a Yoke Screw for an Ithaca pump action and Ithaca's told me that they would not send gun parts to the U.K. A screw for heaven's sake! Just got a friend to get it and mail it across. No offence committed and just awkwardness by Ithaca. Lagopus.....

I'm not arguing with you so forgive me if it looks that way, I looked into deactivating a few tired run of the mill SXS guns a while back and thought anything with a pistol grip would look nice as a sawn off to hang on the wall but was put off the idea when I looked at the guidelines.
Saying that, it looks like the shortened barrel cert would cover it (providing it's altered before submitting) but the theatrical/training issue still seems to stop them being sold as wall hangers.
I may very well be wrong though.

Taken from the guidelines....
Any substantial alteration to a deactivated firearm (e.g. the shortening of shotgun barrels, or adaptation to allow the firing of blank cartridges or to operate as an air weapon) will render the deactivation certificate invalid. Although only a Court can provide a definitive ruling on the subsequent classification of the altered item, the automatic exemption from certificate control provided by Section 8 of the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 would no longer apply to the various component parts, unless the weapon is re-submitted to the Proof House for re-certification.

Sorry for going off topic with Tim's original post.