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Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #442962 04/28/16 10:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia Humpty Dumpty OP Sidelock
OP Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	How about a 4-bore pump? Russian Hunting Shotguns

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #442967 04/28/16 11:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east big al1 Sidelock
big al1 Sidelock Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east	I have one of them,which is really a 6-bore..But I heard they made 4-bore in single and doubles...

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #442988 04/29/16 07:23 AM
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OP Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	Apart from the "Selezen" pump, to my knowledge, there was exactly one gun bigger than 10-gauge made since 1945 - an 8-gauge hammer double by TOZ. Guess I'll have to research this issue. Russian Hunting Shotguns

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #470592 01/25/17 06:48 AM
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OP Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	Here's a video of a chap shooting his 4-gauge Selezen. https://sportingbookworm.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/shooting-a-toz-123-selezen-4-bore-pump/ In absense of commercial 4-gauge ammo, he has to reload flare gun shells. Russian Hunting Shotguns

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #470694 01/25/17 10:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east big al1 Sidelock
big al1 Sidelock Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east	I would like to know if there any 8ga. Single or double around? If there any pictures if so would they post them?This book can we buy it now?I this lead to I have a 4-bore pump which is really a 6-bore..

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #470717 01/26/17 01:42 AM
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OP Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	I'll try to find the images of the 8-gauge gun mentioned above. The book is at the publishers' who are making up their mind about it. Well, if you noticed I don't refer to TOZ-123 as a "4-bore" any more, but as a "4-gauge", which it is. It takes 4-gauge shells, at least. Did I mention it was originally developed as a police riot gun, to fire tear gas grenades and gum balls? I'm curious as to how you got to have yours. Russian Hunting Shotguns

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #470826 01/26/17 11:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east big al1 Sidelock
big al1 Sidelock Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 161 north east	I brought mind new from gun shop in Tenn. and had custom made shells from a company call Rocky Mountain. I would like find a 8-Bore or 4ga. double or single.What I would like to know what Russian company made them ?And how long?

Re: A New Book Project: Russian Hunting Shotguns. Humpty Dumpty #470834 01/27/17 03:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia Humpty Dumpty OP Sidelock
OP Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	The original riot gun was made by Klimovsk Special Ammunition Works, a defense industry enterprize, and the hunting version was made by Tula Arms Works (TOZ) - I suspect, out of parts made in Klimovsk. What I didn't know is that they were exported. Are there any English markings on your gun, i.e. "Read the owners manual"? Russian Hunting Shotguns

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