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King lives in a country that doesn't happen to have a 2nd amendment. Not many countries do. But it's a fine country . . . as is the UK, and we also have several contributors who live there. If they don't think they need a 2nd amendment . . . well, they still own guns and enjoy them. And I for one welcome their different perspective and contributions to this BB.

Old COL, you've hit the nail on the head about Keith. If everyone had to pass the "I must agree with Keith" test in order to post here, it'd be a pretty quiet place. (And far less interesting.) Maybe he ought to take a shot at starting and moderating his own doublegun BB.

A fresh perspective. Who would ever think that an antiquated amendment would linger so long past its usefulness, and end up being the barrier to uniting people of all walks.

I find the Bill of Rights very current to include the Second Amendment. Our country was not founded by people who wanted a central authority (King) to care for and distribute the largess (in other words the illiberal Social-Welfare State). The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are based on the theory of individual Liberty and the limitation of government's authority.

I believe strongly that those who believe them antiquated should go ahead see if they can sell that amendment change through the correct process of amendment. Note not even the Democrat party has tried to remove the Second Amendment through a legitimate amendment process. Unfortunately what I see is those who do not support the original intent of the constitution often try to take the illiberal route of judicial override and reinterpretation. While there is a natural evolution built into our Constitution, it is not and should never be the abrogation of rights through judicial fiat.

I do find it fascinating that often people try to explain away rights they don't approve of as antiquated, while failing to see the danger that method poses to the rights they claim to possess firmly.

This discussion really belongs in a new thread dedicated to the conversation.

On the subject of the modification of chromed barrels where we started the thread I actually learned something new in terms of the actual ease of changing constriction which previously I erroneously believed was a real problem with chromed barrels.

And yet you have a problem with keith?


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King's full of sh.t.

My problem is not a belief in the Second Amendment. It is his diversion of threads through the insertion of Second Amendment attacks and personal attacks in unrelated threads.

Nowhere in my postings to Keith have I questioned the Second Amendment. I have questioned his style of argument some, but more importantly his place of Argument.

While I may respond to what someone else has posted, you will not find me starting the diversion, nor will you see me name calling. Although some see my term "illiberal" as such. I see it in terms of proper definition of what the American left actually is as they do not believe in the founding values that are true "liberal" values and are embodied in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. If someone sees that as an insult they must identify themselves as such and own it. My experience is the American Left would rather cast themselves not so much as liberals but as "progressives" I imagine this is because they have actually shed the true values held by liberals and further determined they gave the name "liberal" such a bad connotation they had to re-brand.

I have for the most part given up asking for civility as I realize manners for some are not possible. I don't think I will give up asking for a cessation of diversion for a bit

My gosh old hypocrite, I mean old colonel, step back and take a deep breath before you hyperventilate. You began your reply to me yesterday with the absurd observation that I cannot read or understand your posts, and then go on to demonstrate that it is you who can't read, understand, or make a valid argument in reply.

I'm only going to address a couple things here since you get overly excited and are prone to seeing things that aren't there.

First, I'd like you to show us where I ever said that King's quote about the opinions of Supreme Court Justice Burger were intended by me to illustrate that he is a liar.

I'm not going to explain it to you just now. I thought it was pretty simple, but apparently not simple enough for you. I just want you to show us what you accused me of.

After you are unable to do that, I'd like you to show us where I claimed that those quotes of King's anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric are examples of his own thread diversions. I did provide some examples of those too when I mentioned a small fraction his frequent trips into off-topic land such as... Canadian PM Justin Trudeau, pulpwood clear-cutting, "the ruinous racial legacy of the U.S. that almost tore the country apart in a Civil War", Civil Rights in the 1960's, producing an award winning wine--- which was actually made by someone else, and dozens of other non-double-gun topics. But I did not use direct quotes from him since most regulars here are quite familiar with his fulminations and B.S. Nor did I wish to reproduce entire threads within this thread just to provide a simpleton like you with "context". I really didn't think that was necessary for anyone with average intelligence. But if I really need to dumb things down to your level, just let me know.

You really seem stuck on the notion that my observation of your hypocrisy is centered around diversions that involve the 2nd Amendment. And this paranoid idea you have that I am somehow believing, or accusing you of being "a closet supporter of the denial of Second Amendment rights" is both false and absurd. Are you that desperate to prove your point that you have to make shit up?

If I ever hold the opinion that you are a 2nd Amendment troll and a supporter of anti-gun politicians like King or Ed Good, don't worry, I won't beat around the bush. I'll let you know directly and back up my opinions with direct quotes of your own words. And I'll make certain to do it when it is obvious that you are attempting to fly under the radar and pretend that you are pro-gun.

Here's an idea for you. Why don't you follow the example of King's little brother Larry and cry like a baby and ask Dave to lock this thread. When that doesn't work, you can say that you are ignoring my posts, but still respond to them. Oh, sorry, I forgot you already do that. And I'm sorry for bringing up more than one simple point at a time since you have such a rough time with that.

There you go again old hypocrite... alluding to the false notion that I have somehow, somewhere questioned your belief in the 2nd Amendment. There must be some reason for this paranoia. Please share it with us in your next thread diversion.

You may actually have me in confusing you statement of "What happened with King's serial dishonesty in August of 2015 does matter" which was proceeded by the King quote included Burger.

I am not paranoid about your insult, just trying to find clear reasoning in your argument.

If you believe me a hypocrite fine. I simple believe your diversion posting to be example of internet trolling from your beneath the cyber bridge hideout.

I will continue to call out your diversion

Bless You

Perhaps if you could express what you mean better I would would understand what your points are instead of having to deduce them from your wandering barks about King with the glory of your cut and paste wanders.

Why do you insist on attacking and posting Second Amendment stuff in unrelated threads in which no one brought the issue up?

You are confused about a lot of things old hypocrite. Now you seem to be confusing paranoia of being branded anti-2nd Amendment with paranoia about an insult. It didn't take long for you to prove my assertion that you can't read.



I have stated my reasons for reproducing the anti-gun rhetoric of Trolls like King and Ed on numerous occasions, including within this thread. If you feel compelled to call me out for interrupting their attempts to be anti-gun Trojan Horses, have at it. You won't stop me.

I have already told you I don't want or need blessings from a hypocrite like you. You sound like a certain self-professed atheist who frequently invokes the name of Jesus: