My problem is not a belief in the Second Amendment. It is his diversion of threads through the insertion of Second Amendment attacks and personal attacks in unrelated threads.
Nowhere in my postings to Keith have I questioned the Second Amendment. I have questioned his style of argument some, but more importantly his place of Argument.
While I may respond to what someone else has posted, you will not find me starting the diversion, nor will you see me name calling. Although some see my term "illiberal" as such. I see it in terms of proper definition of what the American left actually is as they do not believe in the founding values that are true "liberal" values and are embodied in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. If someone sees that as an insult they must identify themselves as such and own it. My experience is the American Left would rather cast themselves not so much as liberals but as "progressives" I imagine this is because they have actually shed the true values held by liberals and further determined they gave the name "liberal" such a bad connotation they had to re-brand.
I have for the most part given up asking for civility as I realize manners for some are not possible. I don't think I will give up asking for a cessation of diversion for a bit
