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Originally Posted By: ed good
this thread is disturbing to me...hopefully, it will be removed from this fine forum...


Ed, the fact that the subject is distasteful for all of us is no reason to censor it by removal. My initial question was the result of pictures only, no questions. The OP has followed up. The questions are reasonable. Let it play out.


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canvas: its just creepy...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I'd want more providence then the Himmler signature. Himmler using a plain French gun doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Never understood the interest or fascination with this stuff. You can't go to a gun show here in Virginia without seeing at least one table of this junk, both artifact and fake....

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I would tend to agree with pooch. I think it's been faked mostly because I doubt the Nazis would use a French gun.


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Can you post an image of the marks to the right of Rectifie C.A. & 17,1mm & 17,0mm? That might point to a maker.

True, I don't really think it is a bona fide VC, but it utilizes VC designs used by oh so many St. Etienne - Stéphanos makers. Then again VC really doesn't know their own history in detail.

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Who can tell me any valuation for that Shotgun "

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Didn't one of the above posts point out that the gun was marked as having been presented to a soldier by Himmler; not used by him. I saw a scoped mod.98 Mauser in an Alabama Gun Collectors gun show, that was also marked as being presented by Himmler to a soldier. I can't confirm the truth of either inscription, but find them historically interesting.
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Originally Posted By: OldMaineWoodsman
Never understood the interest or fascination with this stuff. You can't go to a gun show here in Virginia without seeing at least one table of this junk, both artifact and fake....


Concur, which between excessive Black Gun stuff is why I rarely go to Gun Shows in Kansas


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Without the engraved signature maybe $600-$1200. What the engraved signature adds is very subjective.


As a item for collectors of NAZI stuff I have no idea, but definitely more than the value to a collector of classic guns


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