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For those who care to know and look him up as I did years ago, Michael Dittamo is not a person to be disrespectful toward and disparaged as he is here. Differences of opinion are common to boards, in fact their lifeblood. Insults and ridicule should have no place where members join together for information and camaraderie.

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I am not concerned about respect or disrespect. I do not want or ask anything extra. I am just a guy who did a job. I deserve no more or less than anyone on this board. I only use my name to show I am in the open and don't hide. Nothing more

I plead for civility from everyone to include you King as well as others. That said my objective is to reduce the ridiculous thread diversions.

Disagreements are common and I refuse to take them personally

Larry, I choose not to ignore him at this point as I have at other times and I am no more obligated to do so than Keith is to ignore me.

I ask if others can't stand my post to please ignore me


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I have an old 60s Italian O/U which is very tight fitting and tight choked mod/full. I have three unused Briley chokes that are skeet, IC and Mod. Briley says they can install them. These chokes are exactly what I wanted for the gun. I had always thought of Briley being a first class outfit but now I'm hearing they are not so hot. I would appreciate more info as to your experiences with Briley,
Thanks

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The only job Briley ever did for me was fine. They threaded an old MX8 of mine for S1 series thin wall chokes. But ...... I have heard some horror stories about them in the last 5-6 years.

Personally, I'd feel more comfortable using Mike, right now.

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WOW!! Someone asks a simple liget question and gets flamed! Unbelievable. This board is really gone on the skids. Thanks you few who make this board into the Jerry Springer Show.

Good Luck King, hope the choke work you want done comes out perfect!


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Originally Posted By: Stan
The only job Briley ever did for me was fine. They threaded an old MX8 of mine for S1 series thin wall chokes. But ...... I have heard some horror stories about them in the last 5-6 years.

Personally, I'd feel more comfortable using Mike, right now.

SRH


I have seen threads describing negative experiences with a number of different gunsmith. Some like Briley and Kody Kearcher. Like you I can only describe good experiences with both. I really need to take pictures and post the butt stock transplant Kody did as it was excellent. On Briley my good experience was in the last six months.

If someone posts a bad experience I am ok with that provided they are clear and straight with facts as at times things do go badly. I cannot think of a posting where I did not see what I thought was straight forward. I believe part of the value of this board comes from guys posting things about their good and bad experiences.

I have learned that long distance gunsmithing can be frustrating and requires real trust and exceptional patience (things always take longer than I expect except in rare instances. I had a gun with Kirk Merrington for more than two years for a six month job when he went down with Cancer. His wife offered to return it as is and I choose to wait and it turned out to be worth it when I got it back as the work was excellent.

In the end sending a gun out to be worked on is a leap of faith on everything from shipping it with UPS, to the quality of the work, to the timeliness.


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Originally Posted By: gjw
WOW!! Someone asks a simple liget question and gets flamed! Unbelievable. This board is really gone on the skids. Thanks you few who make this board into the Jerry Springer Show.

Good Luck King, hope the choke work you want done comes out perfect!


Unfortunately, when a board tolorates political banter and incessant mud slinging, those grudges get boiled over into any other threads that those individuals participate in. Legit or not. Some just cannot help themselves.


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King,

Some time ago I inquired about the same thing with Precision Arms in Ontario and was advised its no problem.
http://www.precisionarms.ca/WebPages/SplashPage.htm

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Originally Posted By: old colonel
I plead for civility from everyone to include you King as well as others. That said my objective is to reduce the ridiculous thread diversions.


Oh my, old hypocrite... I mean old colonel, you sound so very sincere and concerned about thread diversions and the purity of content here. Too bad it's all a crock of bullshit.

I would tell you to just take a look at the posts of the anti-2nd Amendment, anti-NRA, anti-gun King Brown to tell us if you could honestly say he has not engaged in as much or more thread diversion or political banter as anyone... even after he has preached against it. I'd ask you to do that, but it would be a complete waste of time because you won't do it, and even if you did, you couldn't be honest about what you would see.

As for King, no-one has so frequently diverted discussions to off totally topic crap about subjects like Canadian PM Justin Trudeau, pulpwood clear-cutting, "the ruinous racial legacy of the U.S. that almost tore the country apart in a Civil War", Civil Rights in the 1960's, producing an award winning wine--- which was actually made by someone else, and dozens of other non-double-gun topics. In addition, he has polluted this forum with his anti-2nd Amendment Liberal Left dogma and staunch support for the same anti-gun politicians who would gleefully gut the 2nd Amendment, which, like it or not, is the foundation of all gun ownership including double guns. And even though Fudd's and ostriches some here cannot stomach it, that is also the very foundation of this forum.

But none of that seems to bother you old hypocrite... I mean old colonel. But hey, if you keep throwing bullshit at the wall, some of it is sure to stick. Just ask your agenda driven pal King, who apparently hates seeing his own words replayed so that people can know what he stands for.

King Brown off topic Post #455933 on 9/11/16--
Originally Posted By: King Brown
Americans and Canadians favour gun control, including background checks. Gun control is far down the list of concerns of electorates. Those who consider gun control a public issue more important than the economy, national safety and security, access to healthcare etc have legitimate concerns.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
The Court departed from the original understanding of the Second. The NRA and other groups rejected the original interpretation. Even as late as 1991, the jurist Burger appointed by Nixon said "the Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller, what Burger said was fraud was accepted by the court. Interesting stuff.


What happened with King's serial dishonesty in August of 2015 does matter... just as it matters so greatly to you what I have posted in the past. Here he is in 2007, once again denying that the Framers of the Constitution ever intended the 2nd to guarantee an Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms... and argument he has proffered repeatedly even after the 2008 Heller and McDonald decisions. But I keep forgetting that you are conveniently blind to such things --

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=38521&page=1

And here's the old fraud telling us that he is only interested in double-gun content being posted here --

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Whatever Dave does with this dissolving phantasmagoria, my hope is that there's a cleanup of all the political partisanship and slogans, jingoism, imputing of motives and citizenship, and it's packed it off to another place on the board. I'm here to learn about doubles. I don't give a tinker's dam about someone's father or politician unless it relates to gun provenance or some activity in the shooting sports.


But wait... there's more...

http://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=315978&page=3

Confront me all you like old colonel. It only gives me more opportunities to illustrate your hypocrisy and selective derision.


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Keith, Your posts demonstrate you either cant read and understand what I have written or cant make a valid argument in reply.

I look at your argument. You seem to claim I am a hypocrite because I fail to call out thread diversions similar to yours and I fail to call out name calling similar to yours.

I then examine your quotes which appear in your mind to prove your point.

None are shown by you to be diversions of the thread's subject or flow. What was the subject and posts prior to his posts?. None appear to be name calling (as you often do)

Yes they prove King is an anti Second Amendment. Something I have never denied, or ever supported.

SO WHAT, I doubt anyone on this board is unaware of Kings positions. Just as I doubt very many, less than half a dozen, on this board might agree. I believe there might be a couple more than we know, but they stay silent to avoid serial harassment and insult from someone on this group trolling.

Kings honesty, which I made clear I did not care who was truthful or not on your August 2016 thread argument with King, I find it insightful that your King quote to prove him a liar contained opinions, (one I note our Supreme Court rejected), but one made in argument by the whole side of a political divide for years, to include lawyers arguing before the supreme court, and unfortunately in the past Justice Burger as he noted. So from this line of reasoning of someone whose argument is not your argument is a liar. You view of debate seems to leave you a unique and prefect moral high ground which renders all in disagreement evil and liars. A wonderfully intellectually lazy way to go, even when most watching your argument agree with your Second Amendment position in whole or part; not a position designed to actually sway with any effectiveness the unconverted.

Then again is your purpose to sway or simply beat down the opposition?

All your post proves is that because you vehemently disagree with another persons position and find their position offensively incorrect (therefore a lie in your mind) that it authorizes you to post attacks on them whenever they post something whether it is related or unrelated online.

None of your posting show I have looked past diversions like yours which introduced unrelated Second Amendment and personal attacks. Maybe if you show the context in which they were made, they might, but I doubt it. If I dig carefully to look for your point of proof, hidden by you vitriol, you hold I am a hypocrite because I say I believe in the Second Amendment and the individual right to bear arms, but do not agree you on your campaign of postings. You seem to believe I am a closet supporter of the denial of Second Amendment rights.

As to confronting you? How could I do anything beyond drawing out your brilliant skills at persuasion as you hide out under a cyberbridge.



Michael Dittamo
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