I believe these are the loads of which you speak, Larry:



I have a good stock of these laid in, am I to understand they are no longer produced? I haven't hunted waterfowl in thirty years, but, seeing the results on real, wild, pheasants, with these, makes me question how someone could say a 20 gauge load, even a 3" 20 gauge load, could be superior. I don't own a 20 that I would be in a hurry to feed 3" ammunition. A lot of them kill on both ends when loaded like that.

I was checked by a warden at a federal WMA, and I'm sure he thought he had me on a non-toxic shot violation when he saw 16 gauge ammunition.

Best,
Ted