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Another informative thread destroyed by the actions of the socialist Neanderthals who for whatever reason are allow to shit all over anything posted here.
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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Interesting reference in the final paragraph of this article (especially considering that this post is entitled "back in saner times") - Montana passed a law requiring full gun registration in 1918. A lot of the history in this post seems to begin at 1934 and much is after 1968. I guess the 1968 laws are what moved the needle for most advocates...? http://www.acslaw.org/acsblog/gun-laws-are-as-old-as-gun-ownership
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ajjar, I have already indicated what was not factual in your post, but since you are too agenda driven to see it, I will repeat it for you. You said that the NRA SUPPORTED the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968. That is factually untrue. It is also the exact same propaganda that is used by anti-gunners in their constant attempts to denigrate the pro-2nd Amendment efforts of the NRA over the last 50 years, since they evolved into a Gun Rights Organization due to the demands of the vast majority of their membership. You also used the exact same cherry-picked 1934 quote from NRA President Karl Frederick that anti-gunners frequently quote. If you actually read that quote, all he said was that he seldom carried a firearm, and that the practice should be restricted and licensed. That is exactly what we have today under our Concealed Carry laws... restriction and licensing. Nowhere in your cherry-picked quote did Karl Frederick, or the NRA, say that they supported the NFA of 1934. Frederick, and a few others were merely content that it did not appear to interfere with sportsmen in general. But by the late 1950's, it became obvious that many politicians, mostly Democrats, were constantly pressing for further infringements upon the 2nd Amendment. This is when members of the NRA realized that the goal of anti-gunners was a slow attrition of all guns and gun rights. That push continues even today, and it is aided and abetted by Fudd's and back-stabbers like you. We are not friends, and we are not likely to ever become friends with your current attitudes toward classes of perfectly legal firearms. I will not be inviting you to go shooting with me thinking that I will ever change your thinking. The so-called "Big Tent" theory of embracing and inviting anti-gunners and those who support anti-gun politicians has not worked at all. Trojan Horses like you are best left outside the gates and exposed for what they are. I'm hoping that the illiterate mental midget dla (sic) will finally show us where I ever said that we should all be able to own nukes. And what exactly is a phycosis anyway? Ajjar....discussing anything with people that have a clinical phycosis is futile.
Oh...Keith believes we should all be able to own nukes, because the government does... Since none of us have the tens of billions of dollars necessary to build a nuclear weapon, a dishonest and idiotic point made by someone who frequently demonstrates his stupidity is meaningless. FYI ajjar, fully automatic weapons are still perfectly legal to own under the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968, and wealthy private citizens can and do own military fighter airplanes and jets. Hell, Donald Trump could conceivably load his own Boeing 757 with fuel and crash it into a skyscraper like the Muslim terrorists armed with box-cutters did. And a dramatic proliferation of semi-automatic rifles and handguns has led to, ta-da, a reduction in murders in the U.S. compared to 50 years ago. Making foolish points has not changed the fact that anti-gunners don't like any guns. And Fudd's who are willing to continue making sacrifices and concessions that do not affect them personally are paving the road to a day when our kids and grandchildren cannot own and shoot firearms. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that you voted for Hillary Clinton, who felt we should follow Australia's example of gun control. Here's what that looks like:  [img:center] https://i2.wp.com/hardnoxandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/NSW-no-reason_poster.jpg?w=624[/img]
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The fact we have an NRA can be blamed on the ability of CSA (Rebel) soldiers ability to handle firearms & shoot Straight. I am, proud to say that I had two G Grandfathers along with other kinsmen who assisted in this endeavor. Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate formed the National Rifle Association in 1871. The primary goal of the association would be to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine editorial written by Church.
After being granted a charter by the state of New York on November 17, 1871, the NRA was founded. Civil War Gen. Ambrose Burnside, who was also the former governor of Rhode Island and a U.S. senator, became the fledgling NRA's first president.
An important facet of the NRA's creation was the development of a practice ground. In 1872, with financial help from New York State, a site on Long Island, the Creed Farm, was purchased for the purpose of building a rifle range. Named Creedmoor, the range opened a year later, and it was there that the first annual matches were held.
Political opposition to the promotion of marksmanship in New York forced the NRA to find a new home for its range. In 1892, Creedmoor was deeded back to the state and NRA's matches moved to Sea Girt, New Jersey. Note this had absolutely nothing to do with Hunting or target shooting purely for sport. It had all to do with learning to handle a gun for being a Soldier. It was recognized by these gentleman the reason it had taken a superior maned, superior equipped, superior fed, superior clothed etc, etc 4 long hard years & the loss of many lives to suppress an Inferior Nation was that Inferior Nation were better shots & better fighters, due to the fact so many of them handled firearms on a regular basis.
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Kieth...what makes you think your opinion actually counts?
Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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....Only someone that is psychotic could or would make that connection as the basis of an argument.... 'Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people, isn't it?' Good thought doctor dal. Why are you prescribing doses nukes and F22's for your double gun patients that are making an argument about legal firearms? Understood, some folks need their hand held and be told what to do. Twenty-eight dal, twenty-eight. That's the number of US citizens that are seeking asylum in Canada because Trump won. That figure is a good two weeks old, could be up around thirty by now. Happy New Year, again.
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We're in saner times, craig. The American ethos and majority that elected Obama is still in place, a majority in size that elected seven previous presidents, and is still growing. Americans didn't change overnight to insular and selfish and friends with Russia. They lost faith in leaders chosen to represent them, not the spirit of inclusion, generosity and innovation that made their great country.
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Kieth...I see you didn't understand my question...not surprised.
Here...I'll try to simplify it....what makes you think that the opinion of hundreds of millions of other people doesn't count?
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Kieth...what makes you think your opinion actually counts? Kieth...I see you didn't understand my question...not surprised.
Here...I'll try to simplify it....what makes you think that the opinion of hundreds of millions of other people doesn't count? dla (sic), aside from you being stupid and illiterate, what makes you think these two questions are even remotely the same?
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Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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