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Originally Posted By: SKB
You can not put the metal together for that kind of money. I HAVE number one on the bench currently. Tons of hand work involved and no way to speed the process up. Fun project for a serious Fox guy but also lots of work and costs involved


Agree. It was a little tongue-in-cheek, Ted. Tremendous amounts of machine and file work everywhere you look, no trigger guards either. Doubt CSM would do the barrels for $6500.

But they COULD probably make a really stunning 12 ga. "Sterlingworth" from this stuff for around $10,000 lol.
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Not C&R eligible? Explain.

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Why make a sterlingworth when you can make a high grade gun for not much more cost and sell for much more?

The same goes for why they choose to make small bores.


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Originally Posted By: eightbore
Not C&R eligible? Explain.


From the BATF C&R website

"...ATF has recognized only complete, assembled firearms as curios or relics. ATFs classification of surplus military firearms as curios or relics has extended only to those firearms in their original military configuration. Frames or receivers of curios or relics are not generally recognized as curios or relics..."

However, you can ask for the BATF to place a firearm or group of firearms into the C&R catagory based on rarity, unique or historical provenance, ect.


Perhaps that was done with these few remaining frames.
The addition of the ser# and being sold as a 'kit' may have something to do with it as it may then be closer to being considered a complete firearm by BATf . Just a guess of course.

A shotgun frame alone would not be C&R,,
and one mfg before 1968 would not need a ser# on it,,only that it could not be possessed/sold with an obliterated or altered original manufacturers applied ser#.

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Since Jason worked with BATF to get the serial numbering system approved and done, i would think that they also approved C&R status.

It is truely funny how contradictory the system is...

A frame has a serial number so it is therefor considered a "firearm" in and of itself. But that same "firearm" may not be considered a C&R because it is not complete.
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A firearm manufactured prior to 1968 need not have a serial number, but these fox parts, being made way before that, now need a serial number to be sold.


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It is precisely the system you would want if your actual aim was no reduction of gun crime, and a further hinderance on the law abiding. That way, your perfunctorys can point at the law abiding, and proclaim the need for more draconian laws upon them, since, gun crime has not gone down.
The entire 1968 gun control mess mess should be repealed. It has done nothing save snare the law abiding.

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