doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Fidel is finally "good."

Cameron, I'm sorry to hear of your family's experience, and I don't consider it a reflection on Cuban doctors practising where they are needed throughout the world. I've never heard a complaint of any practising here although I spoke to the wife of a Cuban doctor at the liquor store last week who expressed an opinion of Canada as different as yours and mine of our Cuban experiences.

When I asked how she and family were getting along, she made a little grimace, shrugged her shoulders, and said they were going back to Cuba. Why? "No one wants to work here; there's work but they don't want to do it." She may have been too polite to say we're lazy from entitlements but she appeared to prefer her native paradise to ours. (And she may have been right.)

The New York Times had several articles a day listing and disproving Trump's lies and they had editorial pieces every day addressing his character flaws. Fox News did the same to Ms. Clinton. When our Constitution was written it was assumed that each side's newspapers would present its politics in the best light and attack and expose its antagonists' failures and hypocrisy. But when the government controls the press everything is just propaganda with no opposition (loyal or otherwise) viewpoints presented. The Castros did it in Cuba, Chavez and his successor are doing it in Venezuela.

Why can't the Castro brothers' governance stand the scrutiny of a free and independent press if its rule has been so beneficial for the Cuban people?

Again, if the Castro brothers did such a bang up job why did they have to take over all of Cuban journalism? Your endorsement of Cuban censorship is outside of classic liberalism you know.

Why that no good ingrate. Apparently, there's not enough booze in all of the great white northern shangri la for the elites of multiculturalism to express a little gratitude. We should turn our favor back to the joy of misogyny under encroaching sharia.

I think this cuba thing will fizzle out, until Trump builds a hotel out there. raul already called dibs on the basement dungeon, Trump gets the top two floors and the ss pays for their rooms, off season rate.

"...I spoke to the wife of a Cuban doctor at the liquor store..."

Shoot. If I lived in Nova Scotia I'd probably be drinking heavily too.

Before they go back to Cuba put in a good word for Scranton.


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Gil, here's one lefty's take on the dissolving phantasmagoria of blood and misery of nation-making. Canada's special forces are in combat supporting the Kurds ostensibly fighting Assad but really carving out a nation (to be betrayed again) while fighting our NATO ally Turkey, and selling arms and armoured cars to regional despots. How to find the peace of God that defies all understanding?

Thousands of Cubans were executed for opposing the revolution, actively or peacefully expressing their opinions. If murder is killing wickedly or with malice aforethought, the musketry and misery of the Civil War took the lives of an estimated 615,000-830,000 Americans. UK- and US-cooking of "intelligence" for Iraq gave the world IS and tens of millions displaced, dead, lives ruined.

I don't see all of this as left- or right-oriented nor believe any reasonable person takes comfort from it. We're all complicit in the murdering and misery of rampant nationalism, of our countries proclaiming superiority to others with a right to invade any country inimical to our national interests and change their institutions to ours. I believe in "just" wars.

Yes, but why can't Fidel's legacy of successes in health care and education stand up to the scrutiny of a free press? I mean, why did he, with all the real data at his fingertips, need to eliminate independent journalists?

The Left gives the Dictators Castro a free pass because the two tyrants are communists/socialists in their economic system preference.

A rose is a rose and BS is BS and propaganda is propaganda and a petty dictator is a petty dictator - by any other name.

...and here we go again... the famous King Brown Liberal Left pivot. This is where we attempt to deflect just and fair criticism of a despotic and murderous Socialist Dictator, Fidel Castro, and equivocate his genocidal tyranny with a Civil War that happened 150 years ago. Hell, why not dig a little deeper to venerate Castro, and say that he wasn't as bad as Ghengis Kahn? Then as if that isn't veering far enough away from an uncomfortable discussion, King then falls back on his old bullshit about "cooking of intelligence" by the U.S. and Britain before the last Gulf War. We're all still waiting for King to show us proof of that... something that if true would have, and should have put George Bush and Tony Blair in prison.

King Brown has repeatedly made a Federal Case out of a few terrorists who got waterboarded, where none died by the way. But here he is dredging up every inane excuse he can to defend a Communist dictator who routinely tortured his political foes before he murdered them without a trial.

I feel sorry for anyone who is expecting a timely and honest answer about anything from this Leftist fraud.

I think my question makes my argument stronger precisely because King won't answer it.

But, he did. He said blah,ba,blah,blah,blah and it all sort of rhymed. Well, not really, but it seemed poetic. Or, maybe stately and long winded in a concise way. A bit of a meandering rose colored stroll through history, tip toeing around the cow pies to the right of the trail.

Just kidding King, I was paying attention. You said all is equivocable, and Trump caused 51% of all the world's tummy aches, no generic antacids please.

I thought you knew there was no independent journalism. None can escape biases or those who write for them because they're humans comprised of their experiences like everyone else.

I've worked under strict protocols, style guides of two national news gathering organizations rated among the best in the world, one reporting to the private sector, the other public responsible to parliament.

Sovereign countries do what they do without needing a "pass" one way or the other from media. It wouldn't matter if media disagreed with Canada saying no to the US on Vietnam and Iraq because they didn't make sense to Canada.

US mainstream media certainly didn't give Trump a pass, broadcasting his personal and business failings every day. Accurately or otherwise, a minority gave him a mandate to use a wrecking ball.

The fact is Cuba's unprecedented health and education progress within such a short period of governance is acknowledged widely by media and medical and health institutions. Stand up to scrutiny? It's on the public record.

You make too much of "independent" journalists. I've never met one. If there are ones of perfect enlightenment, how come the US came to such a state of voting to change all its institutions by a man of no experience in any of them?

US has some of the most responsible newspapers in the world. Stirring the ashes, one of their early judgments is that hard-hitting journalism and satire may have assisted equally---both sides.