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The break out from Normandy was far from planned. Eisenhower was so worried about the lack of progress that in July he set up contingency planning committees to come up with a plan just in case they were still sitting there in the Fall with the subsequent diminishing of allied airpower due to bad weather.

And speaking of history- One Fubar in the great movie "Patton" 1970 starring George C. Scott as Gen. George S. Patton Jr. VMI and West Point-- after he defeated the Afrika Korps Panzers at El Quatar-- he was shown saying "Rommel, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book"-- Der Tank in Kampf-- The Tank in Battle. Not quite right, it was written by Gen. Hans Guedarian in 1933-Rommel's C.O. and an equal in strategy and command presence to Patton.

The German Blitzkreig was an amazing war process, but it had two major flaws that cost it final victory for Hitler- (1) You outrun your supply chain quickly, and (2) your communications link is stretched to the breaking point.

Rommel's book is "Infantry Attacks"

Best,

Greg

There have been a number of good films made over the years with British shooting party scenes in them. I wonder with people contributing from this forum, if we could make a list...I would like to compile them for those cold days when I cant get out..Any contributors, Fox?

And speaking of Panzers: Of all the weapons the Germans had in WWII, the one dad feared and respected the most was the ubiquitous 88 mm cannon whether pulled behind a truck or mounted on a Panzer's turret. The round was on target before the sound of the muzzle blast arrived.

Watching some of the newer documentaries on WW2, its incredible how much trouble we had dealing with only one German tank.

"After my platoon was decimated I drove my tank behind a house to escape his fire and the bloody thing shot through the bloody house and blew my bloody tank up."

Not a contribution, per se, but the H&H instruction videos with Ken Davies, walk up and both driven grouse and also high pheasant are well worth consideration. I am not into that realm of hunting/game shooting, even at our area pheasant club the Sat. tower shoots are no where like what I perceive a driven bird shoot in England or Europe to be. For one thing, at our club, the guys working the tower only throw out one bird at a time, and wait until the shooting is over on that bird and the dog(s) have retrieved it back to their handlers before they throw out another one. Not quite the same as having 10 pheasants moving at Mach 3 and at altitude- and the other guns on adjacent pegs hammering away= or incoming red grouse jinking with the wind and the volley of shots ringing out-wish I coudl recommend something that would give us all a real close-up view of a true driven bird shoot--but I can't..

They must have passed me by. Without exception, every movie or TV drama I've ever seen supposedly depicting a driven day is wholly (and wilfully) inaccurate.

Usually it's just the director getting in some "progressive social commentary" and depicts Bold Sir Jasper assuaging his blood lust after a night spent deflowering scullery maids, but culpable ignorance plays its part too.

I've learned many things from these expositions that a near life time in the job hadn't brought to my notice, viz....

Black powder is the norm; no smoke no drama.
Guns stand about 10 yards apart.
Pointing a gun at your neighbouring Gun is jolly good form, everybody does it.
All beaters are members of the downtrodden lumpen proletariat whose daughters are invariably scullery maids.
All dogs are Labradors.
All the Labradors are encouraged to run around a lot whilst the drive is in progress.
The Norfolk jacket of the late 1900s is still de rigeur today.
Pheasants can't fly higher than 15 feet.
All gamekeepers are either mentally sub-normal or homicidal maniacs; occasionally both.

And so it goes on, hopeless, hopeless, hopeless.

Eug

Well, Then!

Thanks Eugene. I keep watching, waiting to see a driven shoot accurately depicted in any movie, but nothing yet. Have been chuckling about the black powder since I started watching The Crown a few days ago.

The scenes of a young Elizabeth and an old Churchill remind me why I like living in a constitutional monarchy. You just need the right people. Like Elizabeth, Churchill and Thatcher.