I'll try to get this back on track. If anyone thinks CA and NJ gun laws are extremely restrictive just have a look at Puerto Rico's:

Puerto Rico had a very stringent and restrictive licensing process necessary in order to purchase a firearm in Puerto Rico, but portions of this scheme were ruled unconstitutional in a class action lawsuit in June 2015.[7] Judge Aníbal Lugo Irizarry ruled that some of the provisions in Puerto Rico's 404 Statute are unconstitutional and violate the individual and fundamental right conferred in the U.S.Constitution's 2nd amendment which guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. Judge Irizarry based his decision on the U.S. Supreme Court Heller decision. The case was brought by William Bermúdez and others in a class action suit. Judge Irizarry ruled that anyone wishing to acquire a firearm will only need to complete the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) form 4473, as currently required by U.S. Federal Law. The government of the Commonwealth appealed and the case is still under revision in Puerto Rican courts. If the decision stands, the ruling immediately would allow Puerto Rico's residents to purchase and carry a concealed firearm without requiring a permit. Up to this point, permits to purchase a firearm have required proof of "need" and a lengthy process, and permits to carry concealed firearms have been extremely difficult to obtain.

The current legal system has it that in order to get a weapons licence, a person needs to be 21, along with several other requirements. A person is required to present a sworn statement attesting to compliance with fiscal laws, purchase a $100 internal revenue stamp, submit 3 statements from community members who aren't related to them attesting to their good reputation, submit a signed application that is notarized, be fingerprinted and photographed, and submit a negative certificate of debt to the child support administration.[10] That process is just to be able to purchase firearms to store in a residence or business and not for a concealed carry permit. In order to acquire a concealed carry permit a person has to first have a Target shooting license and then appear before a Judge and present proof of a strong reason for a permit. Due to this process, in many cases concealed carry permit applications have been denied. As such Puerto Rico is considered to be an effective "No Issue" territory for concealed carry permits except for in exceptional cases despite the official "may issue" policy. In recent years there has been an uptick in weapons license applications with a 56% increase from 2013. The Puerto Rican Police attribute the increase to the fear of being targeted by criminals in Puerto Rico.


And please note that the Judge that overturned some of the worse of the Puerto Rican laws based it upon the US Supreme Court Heller decision. Clinton has publicly stated that she believes this Supreme Court decision was in error so what do you think she'll do about it if elected and she names a far left wing replacement Judge for Alito?

Oh and BTW: There is now evidence in Wikileaks that Alito was in fact assassinated.

Last edited by James M; 10/15/16 04:43 PM.

The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.