doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com "Glassing" the head of a stock

"If I wasn't looking for a repair or gap filling, then maybe thicker materials that sit on surfaces aren't really needed."

The value of the epoxy type agents are their bedding ability. If an old stock head is weakened, and has limited contact area, the epoxy type agents can provide 100% contact area to assist in handling the recoil.

I've never used the CAs for this, so can't address them. I can see how they might strengthen the wood, but can't see how they would increase the contact area. However, strengthening the wood might be enough in some cases.

SRH

My question was to prevent future cracks/damage. The stock is in good shape, but all of the info, including repair techniques is great.

Then the CA would probably be all you'd need, especially if you intend to shoot light loads in it.

SRH

For me the glas and the CA are entirely different solutions for different situations.
Over the years I've used a variety of glas stuff and Acraglas has seemed the easiest since they did the no sag stuff. Complex inletting like a Perazzi can be challenging but actually the prep time is well worth the result. Perazzis are known for breaking stocks in the inletting and that is due to the meatheads thinking that one size fits all and just cram them onto any gun at hand and expect them to fit. Which they don't of course but it does supply a wide selection of stocks at cut rate prices for anyone who can fix the things hahaha
So the last one I did was exceptional. It had been massively cracked - I mean THREE large cracks well over an inch deep. Un - be - liev - a - ble!! And it had been glas-ed and then broken again. How that came to be staggers the imagination. So it became a two step cure. First I hogged out the poorly done and broken glas. There was even a nail in there to "reinforce" (I guess) the glas. At that point the cracks were obvious and accessible so I wedged them open poured in the CA and then clamped the things shut. I gave that a day to set and did some more excavation with the Dremel and got the action prepped. The inletting is complex enough that I usually glas them in at least two operations. Which is no big deal since I work for free for myself. At any rate, I prolly used more glas in that thing than it would take to bed most rifles but it is now likely bombproof. Tho I'm certain that some trapshooter idiot could find a way to break it.

so anyway if you want to reinforce the head before it breaks I say glas is the only way. And thicker is better than thinner. Personally I'd gouge out at least 1/8" to fill with the glas, leaving just enough wood around the edges to retain the glas. Remember - the glas is stronger than the wood you take out and the great area you have for bonding the better. And like was mentioned, the wood has to be clean or you waste your time/$. If you want to kill a crack then CA may be the best option but clean is still essential.
The moral is that there ain't hardly anything beyond fixing if you care to take the time to do it right.

have another day
Dr.WtS

You might take a look at marine products made for wooden boats.
There are 2 part products that soak into weak & pithy wood, or wood with dry rot. They then set & really harden the whole piece.
I have never yet used these products on gun stocks but I have used them on other projects that had weakened & old pithy wood.
O.M

Hey Drew, has Election Day passed?

What happened to "Down One" until then? I've been patiently waiting to get an answer to my question on your fallacious accusations of Proof Texting Scripture and mocking God. Good to see that there is internet access in those poor remote mountainous regions of Guatemala.

Wow big surprise here princess. Just couldn't help yourself to attack Drew again. What a big girl you are!

Hey, since your waiting around for an answer, how about you answer my question form the "Day starter" thread you slithered away from?

Just in case you forgot:

I'd like to know if the ol' gal (that means you princess) still has the courage of her convictions? But which convictions? The christian/family values or the vote for Trump values? Since Trump literally thinks he's welcome to grab em all by the crotch the two can't co-exist.

So what's it going to be princess? You gonna tell me I'm scum for our spats while concurrently supporting Trump? Something tells me you think your special and don't have to be accountable at all.

Typical for this board... by page two of a legitimate information seeking thread, it is turned into a politics fueled pissing match.

At least some usefull information was shared before it started in.

Some of you guys need cable TV...

Totally agree Brian,if I feel I have anything to offer I usually option for a PM ....This place has mostly turned into an utter shithole,still hard not to visit just in case something interesting do come up...like my day on the barrens yesterday, walked 20 + km in 80 km of wind and light rain ,it was a lot of work but the dogs enjoyed work on the three snipe we bagged ,pile of work for little gain

Hi guys, my personal opinion, I didn't find this too interesting, but it's okay.

Generally, the various super glue uses seem to be more related to home tinkering rather than pro gunsmithing applications. What would you folks consider doing if the request for the job came in the front door. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the gun, it seems like a preventative request.

Do you folks think the gun needs it? If buying a gun or taking one in for repair, does signs of epoxy bring up any red flags?

I wouldn't think much structural improvement could come from using CA, but maybe it can help keep smaller chips around inletting from popping off? Maybe, cyanoacrylates can help stabilize the end grain in the inletting from things that can cause problems like moisture and too much of the various solvents and lubricating oils?

At least if someone looked, CA in the head of a stock might look similar to an oil finish? Is there a place in the pro shop for the CA's. Thanks much for any time you may have for these thoughts.