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King, I think Roguard or some name like that was/is a modified nickel finish with teflon and other agents/alloys. I contacted them many years ago to ask about having a rifle done. I think they were in Arizona. oops, Roguard is a sprayed on, baked finish. http://www.robarguns.com/q_and_a.htm
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In reading the responses so far, it appears that no one who has read this thread has actually tried any of these new high tech finishes on a modern SxS. I was hoping to avoid guinea pig status and to learn from previous experiences.
I am further contemplating having the internal working parts coated in a nickel/teflon type finish like NP3. My reading leads me to believe the coating thin enough that it does not effect the working tolerances. I guess it would be nothing more than an update on the practice of having the internals of best guns gold plated for corrosion resistance and appearance.
I have not and will not contemplate Parkerizing. I have been informed the temperatures used in the process would high enough to risk loosening the ribs. Besides, I know it is ugly. The newer processes, I am just not sure how the appearance would work out on a SxS.
In response the question by Mr. Moody inquiring as to what is wrong with the current finish: The answer is nothing. It is a deep, dark, unblemished, lustrous blue. I just want something with different properties, including a greater resistance to corrosion, greater scratch resistance, and a less reflective surface.
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I have seen the Robar finish that duplicates blueing used on a good friend's bolt guns. All his guns are custom guns, by the likes of Gowdy, McCulloch, Brownell, etc. All are pretty old, and old school except the finish. The guns have been around the world, used hard, and look pretty good to this day. The edges wear in a similar fashion to a blued gun, but, rust resistance is much better. Sorry, but you are likely to be the first we know to try it on a double. I 'gotta believe a model 23 would be a good candidate (no, I'm not trying to stick a thumb in Don's eye, but it is a modern gun and one could expect a lifetime of heavy use with one) for an attempt at it. Robar would be able to do it, and likely warn you of any pitfalls. Good luck. Sounds interesting, anyway. Best, Ted
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A couple friends asked about having their guns "parkerized," which they said is a sort of black long-wearing finish used on military arms, particularly at sea. I associated the word with improving a pistol's trigger and action. Is it a chemical or Teflon finish, please? What is Roguard? That may be the ticket. Roguard Try this on and see if it might work for you. It sure solved all of my corrosion problems.
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Might want to ask if they can NP3 the bores and action/triggerguard and Roguard the outside of the barrels. It might end up looking fairly close to a Pigeon grade finish combination but with much more corrosion resistance inside and out.
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Roguard and NP3 is not applied to springs or bores. I have a Win 70 that has an NP3 coated bolt and internal parts with Roguard on the balance. It is basically rust proof (stainless barrel)now and has held up very well in the field. The NP3 coating is self lubricating, so no oil is needed on the working parts. On the whole, the coating combo along with a Kevlar stock makes a very weather resistant gun.
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If you'd like to keep the original finish and want to protect it I'd suggest Boesheild (T-9). It sprays on and leaves a waxy (removable of course) coating behind. It was originally developed by Boeing to protect aircraft parts and I found it to work really well both in Florida, and on a rainy week's bear hunt in Canada.
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