I have a very close working Griff a.k.a "Griffon Kortalis a poil d'arret dur" to the French. They can be bread to be very close working, but are not bootlickers. She will not get out of visual range and works about 30-50 yards ahead which is fine for the grouse woods I hunt.

I have a friend with a Braque Francais that will not hunt. I'm sure there are many that are great hunters but this one did not "turn out".

Owen