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I can handle that more beautifully than you can, anyway, Dr. Sane.

Think Beretta, on steroids. End of discussion.

Miller, you are indeed correct, the Nitro isn't held on face by the opener, just by that skillfully fitted hinge pin, put there, what, most of 80 years ago? And, not in danger of failure, anytime soon. Someone may have some trouble with it, some day, but, it won't be me or you.

It is possible to over think things.

Best,
Ted

Ted;
My thinking is that when this design was developed some "Overthinking" was done. I mean if you get just .001" of clearance in the hinge when the gun is opened you can feel a bit of looseness. This forend was designed to prevent that looseness. It however does absolutely nothing to prevent that clearance but is much more apt to accelerate the wear of the joint due to the increased friction.
Yes I admit I have used guns with this type of fastener with no apparent problem. We were however speaking of our personal "Favorites". This one is on the absolute bottom of my Totem Pole of favorites.

There are some snap ons that snap on a lot easier than they snap off. And if they don't give you any room for a finger to gain purchase . . . but then Ansons can be balky too. Often, opening the gun slightly will enable removal of an otherwise balky forend.

I don't give a flying rip what kind of fore-end fastener the guns have. If it works, and I can hit wild birds and fowl with it, carry on.

I only wish I could live long enough to wear out a gun with the worst possible fore-end fastening system.

SRH

Stan,
Wish granted. Find a WInchester (Cooey Arms) model 840 single shot, the one with the plastic end on the wood that meets the knuckle of the "Winchester Proof Steel" receiver, and the die cast, pot metal opening lever. Proceed to fire 50-100 rounds of some form of clay bird practice a week.

You won't make it two birthdays before it is shot. Promise.

You don't ask for much.


Best,
Ted

Stan, you have a kindred spirit in Pato, Jaycee's friend in Chile. Note forend "fastener" and stock "repair" on his well-used old Baikal. Photo posted originally by Jaycee a few years ago. Gil

I remember that photo, Gil. Thanks for the reminder.

I've owned and shot a lot of guns ............ still do, but I've never had one with a fore-end fastener that failed me. Guess I just need to shoot more.

SRH

In all fairness, Ted, do you think the 840 was designed to be shot 50-100 rounds a week? Using it for clay bird practice is a bit of a stretch in regard to it's intended purpose, I think. That gun, and many other inexpensive single shots, were marketed with the occasional squirrel, turkey and rabbit hunter in mind, and maybe to be a kid's first gun. I really don't think it was ever intended to last for a lifetime of clays, or hard hunting. It may well be the sorriest break-open shotgun ever designed, I dunno, but comparing it to the guns we use for hard shooting/hunting is straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

SRH

Stan,
You said worst. And, "lifetime" is, I'm hoping, more than two years.

For me, anyway.


Best,
Ted

I had a friend back in my teenage years who had a single barrel similar to that one. He used to hold the forearm on by wrapping his hand around it and over the top of the barrels which keep the forearm on during firing. Kinda made the front bead useless!
Jim