Originally Posted By: postoak
If it were all about utility, we would be shooting 870s and SX-1s smile


No. We would be shooting: PB Essentials, Whitewings, Blackwings and Onyxes. "Bare bones" PB 'Essential' 12ga in excellent shape can be had for <$1000. These are robustly built and do to replaceable "U bolt' very, very long lived. These are modern knockabout guns extraordinaire.

From European perspective both Model 21 and Ithaca NID in very good shape would give estimate of about 1200€ to 1400€. Ithaca NID would be favored over the Winchester.