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Gas guns are the preferred machine not because of reliability, but because of they way the soften apparent recoil. To be brutally honest, recoil problems are not caused by the gun so much as by poor mounting technique. They do break down during shooting, and shooters spend a lot of time cleaning them compared to the time I had to spend maintaining my SP II Sporting. But, most patrons still insist on shooting them.
Beretta semis are deadly reliable. They require only a fraction of the cleanliness of most gas guns to keep working. I have a 390 that I use for the absolute worst duck hunting conditions. I just don't have any idea how many rounds it would digest and eject/feed properly without cleaning, because I can't make myself go that long without cleaning it. Benellis are tough, if not quite as reliable under volume shooting conditions, and the recoil from them is more bothersome to most, under high volume conditions. They are not a gas gun. They're inertia operated, with a rotary bolt, which is the source of most Benelli failures to fire. They require more oil to keep running than most modern semis, and the tiniest piece of trash will keep that bolt from going into battery.
The most frequent failure in high volume shooting is failure to eject properly due to plastic buildup in the chamber. The barrels get so hot that it seems to accentuate this issue. A semi really needs to be broken down to get a good stiff chamber brush in there to clean it. When the 687 gets sluggish, or fails to eject, I can hit both barrels with a chamber brush in just a few seconds, and it's back up and running.
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Just a quick update: at present Kim and Morgan are in a three-way tie for first at 48 after two of three rounds. Amber Hill - the young lady who started this thread is one back at 47. Round two is nearing completion.
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Just to end the speculation, it was an all Beretta final.
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The gun does not make the shooter Agree completely, all the Italian guns mentioned are all good and one could win with any of them and an old Browning too, but at the end of the day it is what is behind the gun. The shooters in the Olympics are in a class of their own
Last edited by old colonel; 08/12/16 03:28 PM.
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The gun does not make the shooter Agree completely, all the Italian guns mentioned are all good and one could win with any of them and an old Browning too, but at the end of the day it is what is behind the gun. The shooters in the Olympics are in a class of their own Thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious. Can we move on now. Total medals Tom. It ain't over yet.
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Treblig, Only meant as an observation. I've sold hundreds of them all, and I've found examples of each that I really liked. Out of the box I shoot the standard Italian dimensions best (Beretta, Zoli, Guerini, B Rizzini).
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Hard to argue with the dominance of the Italian guns in competition shooting.
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There is this about Kim Rhode, "Instead, because she wields a shotgun, speaks out against gun control and says her 3-year-old son, Carter, is a Life Member of the National Rifle Association, Rhode – a three-time Olympic gold medalist with a silver and two bronzes to boot – is among the most polarizing athletes in Rio, drawing attention from worldwide media fascinated by the United States’ gun culture and serving as one of the most visible defenders of the Second Amendment."Then, of course, we have this, Kim Rhode discharges shells from her rifle during woman’s skeet qualifications. (Reuters) Here, https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/american-medaled-record-six-straight-000000074.htmlShouldn't all guys across the board know the difference between a carburetor and fuel injection and the difference between a rifle and a shotgun? WTF!!!!
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The gun does not make the shooter Agree completely, all the Italian guns mentioned are all good and one could win with any of them and an old Browning too, but at the end of the day it is what is behind the gun. The shooters in the Olympics are in a class of their own Thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious. Can we move on now. Total medals Tom. It ain't over yet. You are most welcome
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I saw that Beretta won most of the medals in Olympics, by far.
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