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Every time I see one of these NID things I wonder about Pete too hahaha. I presume he's still topside but I didn't see him at the last Reno show.

AFAIC the old Beretta that I have is way more attractive than the US guns and I doubt the materials and/or workmanship is anything but equal or better. No need for me to consider any limey gun at any level actually with the range of Italian beauties around. But that might just be me.

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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Originally Posted By: Rocketman

Brit "utility" (think BLNE) fowlers are generally proofed for 2 3/4" or 3" shells and, if one respects their service pressures, quite robust. They weigh, balance, and swing much like their American counterparts. Their price point was not all that different.

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I agree, but a English gunmaker will build you a masterpiece to hunt waterfowl, then another masterpiece to hunt upland game, and another to hunt dangerous game, all individually hand made, whereas the American gunmaker compromised and offered a gun that can be used across the board at a price people could afford given the salaries at that time. The Brit gun trade made guns for every price point as did the American companies. Brit "farmer" Original Quality grade (plain to very modestly engraved boxlocks) guns were priced not all that differently than American "field grade" guns. Brit best work SLE's were for the fortunate few ---- as were top grade American guns.


The used gun market today means relatively little as an used English BLNE can be purchased by someone earning even a modest income. as they were when new.

Howver, can that same person order a new CSMC Model 21 or Fox or a new James Purdey? Not then or now.

Look at the current pump shotgun market and compare the price of a new Remington Express with a new Remington Wingmaster or a new Ithaca Model 37, all guns that can be used to hunt everything under the sun, what is someone going to buy earning a modest income. If "someone" is frugal, financially wise, works hard and smart, and has an appreciation for aesthetics what will he/she buy in the future?


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Heard of it- was that the rich Robber Baron type coal field owners put down a miners strike for better wages, using the same armed Pinkertons as did James Frick at the PA Homestead works to shoot to kill fellow Americans- a la Gettysburg, Bull Run, et al. What a scar on America's history- while Carnegie was over in his native Scotland playing golf.


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But which one.


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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
Heard of it- was that the rich Robber Baron type coal field owners put down a miners strike for better wages, using the same armed Pinkertons as did James Frick at the PA Homestead works to shoot to kill fellow Americans- a la Gettysburg, Bull Run, et al. What a scar on America's history- while Carnegie was over in his native Scotland playing golf.


Yes sir!! But it was Baldwin-Felts detectives this time. Beating people up, women and children also, they didn't care much for that hillbilly trash anyway being subhuman and all, that is until they ran into Sheriff Sid Hatfield holding that big effin Winchester of his.

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