Agree- my oldest 12 L.C. Smith is a 1896 OO- with the rotary joint check/cam extractor design- Armor steel barrels DT- bushed firing pins, two way safety. It is my favorite 'barnyard' and "foul weather" double gun- all lock parts are original, good trigger pulls, safety works without a hitch- and it drops barn pigeons and pheasants for me-time after time. Luckily, it has more modern stock dims than the usual 14" LOP (from front trigger) and 3" DAH found on double guns from that era- 30" barrels choked F&F, the usual norm for that day- I use RST spreaders in the right hand barrel and AA trap loads in the left. I am not one for rechoking or rechambering older double guns-and one nice thing about Smiths- as opposed to Parkers and Ithacas and LeFevers from that era- Smith 12 gauges had std. 2&3/4" chambers-- You Fox fans will not the omission, as the Fox guns were not yet made in 1896 I believe.. All good guns, built to last darn near forever, given proper care and handling--