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John, almost certainly not a F Beesley gun. I have never seen a Beesley with disc set strikers or side clips before.

Furthermore, he was a man who would have had no fear of putting his name to a gun he had made.

Lastly, he actually made very, very few guns on his Patent 31 system after he had sold it to James Purdey.

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Would it be possible to see a picture of the inside of the locks? Looks to be a very well made gun.


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Originally Posted By: trw999
John, almost certainly not a F Beesley gun. I have never seen a Beesley with disc set strikers or side clips before.

Furthermore, he was a man who would have had no fear of putting his name to a gun he had made.

Lastly, he actually made very, very few guns on his Patent 31 system after he had sold it to James Purdey.

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It was just a thought! It looks to me to be very well made, and of course that action is not an easy one to make. I know a considerable number of people have made it in small numbers, but can't think of having seen an un-named one anywhere before.

I'm not a great 'proof marks' changes expert (or expert at all for that matter!), but the 13/1 with no chamber length specified and the fact that it is black powder only presumably makes it very early and so probably in the years of the patent being operative - and yet there is no 'use number' that I can see - which I would have though should appear?

I'm also not familiar with that way of retaining the extractor/ejector legs, which again looks well executed.

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Hello SKB, below Video of this shotgun.

https://youtu.be/H4Taz4FzzVw

If not visible, I will post some more pictures to help me identify its producer, it is an English handmade shotgun high quality ... is for mi an enigma so great curiosity of trying to find your likely producer. ..Frederick Beesley is a possibility, as Henry Atkin or other ...






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...another picture of barrels

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Any markings on the vertical wall of the action below the firing
pin holes?
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In this last picture it does have the chamber mark a well as Nitro Proof. It has the mark Choke rather than Not For Ball. Not 100% positive but memory tells me this was between 1887 & 1904.
It is Birmingham Proof.


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Grateful for the information. Are proof marks of London as one of the photos with proof marks I was barely published and already eliminated forum, leaving only the correct ...my sincere apologies for the lapse.

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Are the locks by Brazier? If so, that would at least indicate a country of origin.
What a beautiful gun.
I recently saw a Spanish copy of a Boss by Pietro Sarasquetta. It was nice but nothing like the quality of this gun we are looking at in this post.


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"Not for Ball" was dropped in 1887.


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