Lloyd while both are nice guns I found what I consider the most beautiful balance between the 28 which you must admit is a bit lacking for wild birds on the great plans and mountain states and even the lightest 12s are the A H Fox 16 gauge guns. Light enough at 5 pounds 14 ounces to 6 pounds 4 ounces to be comfortable to shoot without being "whippy" but deadly with a 1 or 1 1/8th ounce of hard shot.