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There are Chapuis' in 470 as well. If you are going into the DR category, ask member Roscoe Stephenson (Capt Curl) for his opinions. Heym's are stout, but I consider them too plain for an investment grade (or at least cost), double rifle. I shot hogs out to 250 yds with the Chapuis DR. Very satisfied. Rolled them like boulders. On the mountain with my friend. Indeed there are, and they can be had up here for about $13K Cdn., plus sales taxes. I fear that used ones, however, are much harder to come by. Thank you.
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Nick Makinson is a Gunmaker over in Kamoka, ON, he has made double rifles and I think had a 470 when I was there a couple months ago. Very nice gentleman, he may know of some for sale as well Thank you. I actually sent him a note last night asking him about one of his rifles that I've found available through Ralf Martini in British Columbia. Just haven't heard back yet. I've also posted a separate note on here asking for opinions about the Browning action he used, as I'm not too familiar with it.
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Bob Hunter near Selma, AL has this. Not a .470, but with some of the hot loads available in .45-70, doubt a buffalo would know the difference. Looks like a lot of gun for the money ($6000)from a known Italian maker: http://hunterguns.com/?page_id=3507JR
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Bob Hunter near Selma, AL has this. Not a .470, but with some of the hot loads available in .45-70, doubt a buffalo would know the difference. Looks like a lot of gun for the money ($6000)from a known Italian maker: http://hunterguns.com/?page_id=3507JR Thank you.
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www.tradeexcanada.com A couple here and close to home
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Thank you. Yes, I'm familiar with Tradex, and their pricing is decent. I was just hoping to find a better value on the second-hand market. Having said that, I am trying to arrange to get up to visit Tradex and have a look at what they have.
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Went to check out a couple of used DRs yesterday. The first was a Merkel 140AE in .470 (my calibre of choice). It felt heavy overall, but seemed to point fairly well for me. The other was a VC Azur Safari in .500NE. Although I assume they both weighed about the same, the balance of the VC was definitely very different. It seemed more back-heavy than the Merkel and, as a result, the muzzle seemed to "float" a bit. Is this what you want, or is the Merkel's handling more desirable? The VC was also pointing naturally high for me, which I assume means that the comb was too high?? They were both a bit short for me, but I assume lengthening the LOP on a DR is not a big deal. Thoughts?
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Please take this in the spirit with which it is intended.
You need to find some DR shooters in your region and spend some time shooting with them. The questions in your last post suggest you are going to buy a heavy DG DR, without any experience. Take the time to learn about them. How to shoot them effectively on moving game. Stance, technique, follow through, aiming, reloading after the shot. All of that.
If all hell breaks loose, I want you to put 2 in the brain on reflex. Take the time to do this right. Find a club. Join DRSS. Nothing personal.
Out there doing it best I can.
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Please take this in the spirit with which it is intended.
You need to find some DR shooters in your region and spend some time shooting with them. The questions in your last post suggest you are going to buy a heavy DG DR, without any experience. Take the time to learn about them. How to shoot them effectively on moving game. Stance, technique, follow through, aiming, reloading after the shot. All of that.
If all hell breaks loose, I want you to put 2 in the brain on reflex. Take the time to do this right. Find a club. Join DRSS. Nothing personal. Thank you, truly. I appreciate it. But that's easier said than done. We simply don't have the pool of DR shooters up here that you do down there. Certainly no "clubs" of them. Just look at how many people post on here who are from Canada and how many are from the U.S. To give you an example, in all my years of going to various shooting ranges, I don't think I can ever recall seeing someone shooting a big bore double. I have fired a Heym .470 before, but it was a few years back, before I was looking at possibly purchasing something. And I'm an experienced hunter and shooter. I own 2 .375s, a .416 Rigby, and a .458 Lott, so "big guns" aren't new to me. And I've hunted Africa. So I'm not green, I just don't necessarily know what to look for in a big bore DR, and I was just curious as to whether what I'd taken note of with regard to these 2 rifles was typical. Sometimes posting on a forum such as this can give someone trying to learn and do some research (which is what I'm doing at this stage) a great cross-section of information and opinions to consider. For instance, while examining these two rifles, I was able to implement some of what I'd read on here or a different similar forum as it pertains to checking a DR's "tightness." Thanks again.
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When you move up into shooting dynamic rifles with 55lbs of recoil as opposed to a sand bagged 300 Win Mag at 29lbs, you gotta learn it. You can't just buy a DG rifle and go to it.
Well, you can, but it won't be pretty. A broken nose is not an uncommon event.
Some vintager chapters have Stopping Rifle events at them.
Join DRSS and get on board.
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