Gerald- I have a 12 gauge Ideal LONGRANGE- DT, AE- 32" F&F-- 3"chambering-. Made in the post 1930 era, as the forearm escutcheon is rectangular, not "banjo shaped"--I am guessing that when the 3" Magnum Model 12 "Heavy Duck" gun came out in the mid-1930's, many potential buyers of a Smith LONGRANGE went to the M12 instead- lesser price and one more shell available-but that is a guess. Mine weighs 8 lbs. 3 ounces empty-a real "cannon" with non-toxic shot on geese- but I only use 2.75" shells in it- ditto on my 3" Model 12- lower cost, less recoil, and I wait until I can "see their shoe-laces" before I shoot-
