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I just cannot fathom that W. & C. Scott & Sons and AA Brown & Sons could produce so many guns for the trade at stratospheric levels of craftsmanship plus produce their own guns.

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Greener did not make sidelocks?? Then who made them for them? They also produced basic box locks as well. The Empire grade Greener sure looks a lot like a boxlock to me and very unlike a FP or Unique "G" actions gun. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Boxlock:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22751/lot/134/

Sidelock:
http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1345-w-w-greener-side-lock-ejector-l60-grade-game-gun-35885/

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Greener did not produce sidelocks in quantity , their Empire A&D was a late comer but stuck with the cross bolt .We wont talk about the the later Empire guns with the cocking main spring design . Fact was Webley and Scott made more guns for the trade than I would say any other maker .

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Originally Posted By: gunman
Greener did not produce sidelocks in quantity , their Empire A&D was a late comer but stuck with the cross bolt .We wont talk about the the later Empire guns with the cocking main spring design . Fact was Webley and Scott made more guns for the trade than I would say any other maker .


No argument from me when it comes to W&C Scott and the later W&S being the champions of the English gun trade. They were prolific, no doubt about it. I just thought it odd that you'd say Greener did not make a sidelock or boxlock, a guy with your expertise surely knows they did in fact manufacture both along with with The Facile P and the Unique.
I just suggested that if there was no W&C or W&S, Greeners was fully capable of picking up the slack. They had the factory, machinery, design talent, work force and skills to make anything the trade wanted, that too is a fact.

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