Originally Posted By: Argo44
When I mentioned French influence on breech loading shotguns, I of course meant Casimir Lefaucheux....just for the historians and people browsing because this knowledgeable crowd already knows about him (and how the Brits basically got around his patents).

The first centerfire breechloader - the Lefaucheux pinfire, breechloading shotgun, 1836: In 1836, French gunsmith Casimir Lefaucheux, taking inspiration from earlier designs by Jean Samuel Pauly that just didn’t work, came up with something pretty radical.

Lefaucheux’s gun, a smoothbore longarm that loaded from the breech rather than the muzzle, in itself was not new. What was new was that he used a self-contained paper tube that held both the charge and the shot in one handy shell. This shell was fired from a pinfire primer in the rear that was struck by a hammer in the rear of breech. To load and reload, one simply cracked the breech open and inserted or extracted the round by hand. Once fired, the empty paper hull was removed and a new one inserted if needed.

Today you can look at the design and see the modern hinge-break shotguns that are still in fast production. Next time you go to the skeet range, you can mutter a little thanks to Casimir.



I say this as a big fan of French guns, having a French surname and coming from a sales and marketing background.

The French couldn't care less about the rest of the world. They sleep at night secure in the knowledge that the pinnacle of culture and sophistication resides in the heart of France, in Paris. They traditionally are insular in their world view. Their industry mirrors that outlook. Thus, despite a thriving gun industry, the output was, and is, primarily offered and marketed to Frenchmen in France.

The Brits, on the other hand, have an extremely outgoing world view and always have. Success for Britain is on the world stage. So their thriving gun industry marketed their wares to the world.

The result is Britain's leading makers are known throughout the world. While France's leading gun-makers are known throughout....France.

If you want to own fine guns, it's an opportunity.


The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia