Family and friendship, harmonious and productive relationships, high standards of human values, pursuit of happiness without intruding carelessly on the happiness of others are worth more than any gun to me. Guns fit nicely but they're not everything.
Plenty of guys here have managed to cultivate family and friendship, harmonious and productive relationships, high standards of human values, and pursuit of happiness without repeatedly undermining and denigrating the 2nd Amendment, or the NRA. We have also managed to do it without pretending to be supporters of gun rights, and without supporting and defending the most extreme anti-gun politicians on the planet. Save for a very few like Ken61 and canvasback, I could have told you which posters would flock to support King just by seeing their name or handle.
Some, like the coward nca225, are also anti-gun trolls who ardently support the anti-gun politicians who are continually working to erode or eliminate our rights. He also repeatedly posted vile, filthy, disgusting comments about my daughters here, escalating a dust-up between us to all time lows. Almost everyone who saw it condemned it. But King Brown, a man with three daughters of his own, and a man who frequently was critical of Mitt Romney and Republicans as being misogynist, was the only one who felt I should forgive the slimy coward. It is easy to see why they are the most desperate to not have the crap they posted in Misfires resurface. Then there are the hopeless hypocrites like Last Dollar who acts like he is without sin even though he posted ethnic slurs and vulgarity like this shortly before his all too brief departure:
He's throwing ilks about again..These guys are never done, they are always off on some tirade and continue to preach to the choir. Who does this wop think he is convincing? FYI: I wont watch the Superbowl today. Who the F**K is Soro? Another Kenyan?? Our gun rights will be overthrown during the Superbowl? OMIGOD, what next...??? I know! Space invaders, The same ones that killed Kennedy!
If Replacement or Larry Clown ever said anything nice about me, I'd feel that I was a complete failure. Fin-2-Feather, Clapper Zapper, SKB... there's three guaranteed votes for Hillary in spite of her promises to enact new gun laws, ban classes of firearms, legalize damaging lawsuits against the firearms industry, and fight the NRA. Buy hey, let's get this thing back on topic! Here's the old anti-gunner once again spouting his same ridiculous nonsense claiming that the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a relatively new thing and a perversion of the anti-gun notion that it is a collective right held within a defunct Militia:
King Brown post 433281 from "Trump on the Second Amendment" main forum 1/18/2016
Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so.
King's little brother Larry Clown has told us he will fight to the death to defend King's right to say these things, and he will do the same for Ed or John Kerry. But me... oh no. He wants to shut me up, and has even cried like a baby to Dave attempting to do so. Civility my ass. Dishonesty ain't civility.
