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Turkey loads.

I'm with Mike. If you just need few shells, the all-brass ".444/.410" works great. And you don't really need to be a full-setup reloader; a few simple DIY tools will do it. The components are harder to find than the tooling. And those .444s are like the old "Everlasting" shells!

(I even used my friend's monster Rockchucker press to make a few out of reformed .30-06 cases. Not worth the work....but they worked!).

Take a look at luckygunner.com. They have plenty of .410 2.5" rounds. Some with muzzle velocity of 950 fps, these will safely shoot in most older guns. The link is for low velocity handgun shells.


http://www.luckygunner.com/410-bore-2-1-2-4-shot-judge-federal-premium-200-rounds

Limited usefulness with #4 shot. Not good for doves/quail. I don't quite understand what's going on with the velocity numbers, either. The info says 950 fps but the box is imprinted 1200. At 1200 I would have my doubts it is a low pressure load. If I was really interested in them I would send five of them to Tom for testing.

SRH

Mike, the caveat to using the .444 brass and Magtech brass is that they may require large pistol primers. Not certain about the .444 brass, but the Magtech do for sure. Changing primers in a recipe can alter the pressure. The RMC brass uses shotgun primers. Gil

GLS, and I thought I was the only hunter with a slate call set in a land tortoise shell!

Joe, no box turtles were harmed in the making of that call. I find them dead in the woods often while hunting. They make great slate call sound chambers and are simple to make and use. The trick is to find them before the squirrels gnaw them. Gil

I used large rifle primers in my .444/.410 loads and have never tried the Magtech yet. But my .410s are newish ('40s and '50s) and stout. GLSs' caveat might well hold true for an earlier gun.

I had a Peiper hammer "cape gun" with an unchoked 2" Brit "Fourten" .410 chamber on one side, but always used .444 shells loaded with black powder, the few times I fired it. It was made in the 'teens and had fluid steel barrels.

Mike, FYI:
http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/primersubs.htm
Gil

Changing hulls can also change pressures. Using the same load pressures will be less in a paper hull or plastic one with paper base wad & highest in a compression formed case. The .444 or Mag Tech brass hulls have thinner walls, thus more internal capacity than the RMS brass so see should produce lower pressures & they're Drastically cheaper.