Ken, I took your Suggestion and went over to the Lefever'site'. All very interesting! I did a "Bit" myself, Registered etc. I wish you 'Well" with your Venture. I noted that "SQ" has put'Pen to Paper over there...In fact he just called and seems to be 'Up' for the Project....I have 2 of his 'Jobs going at this time...Mark Harris is also one of the best....Guess I'll have to Dig My Old Live Pigeon Killer out of storage. "C Grade 12b. 30"" used to have .041"&.041" chokes. I found it 'Blew those'Bridge Pheasants" way out of the 'Ring'!!!Good Krupp Steel Barrels.