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Stan - lovely boat. I use a camo-painted sit-on-top fishing kayak in salt marsh on SF Bay. I don't get a lot of ducks but I have a blast. I should not admit this in public, but I won't expose my SxS's to salt water and use a clickety clack gun.
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Thanks. It is getting more popular, as I understand it, to use sit-atop kayaks for ducks. Recently read a piece by a young outdoor writer in NC named Taylor Pardue in which he mentions using them. I can carry a few dekes in mine, lunch, necessary stuff. I have had it nearly twenty years I guess. It has no name that I know of. They were built one at a time by a fellow down around Lake Okeechobee, FL, IIRC. I think it was about $400 at the time. It's fiberglass with a gel coat that I painted over to help camo it a little better. It's about 12 ft. long, but can't weigh over 35 lbs. When I snap the two halves of the paddle together I can really make it scoot. Hardest part about getting a drift organized is getting somebody to help me leave my truck at a downstream landing and then take me upstream to another landing to put in. Worth the trouble, tho'.
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Stan, you ever run into big ducks on your drifts? Gil
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Never yet on Brier Creek. See some occasionally on the Savannah River. When I drift the river I usually get a buddy who has a kayak exactly like mine to go, too. One of us takes the GA side and the other takes the SC side. There are never any ducks on the outside of the curves, always on the shallow inside of the curves in the willows. Too much work to paddle back and forth across the river dozens of times on a drift. Big ducks may be right out in the middle of the river. Tough to slip up on, too. Hawks daydream about having eyes as good as woodies.
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What happens if the duck you shoot falls on land? In Mich, that would require trespass. The only time you can leave your boat or the streambed is to traverse around a deep hole or impediment which precludes your continuing down the river safely
Last time I looked at the CA regs, you are allowed to retrieve downed game birds that fall on posted land. Can't hunt the posted land, but can go in to recover the game.
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What you folks are describing re the sit-on kayaks seems to be a replication of the old sneakboxes (not sinkboxes, an entirely different animal) once common on Barnegat Bay. Floated in a couple inches of water, rowed, able to slide up on flocks of resting ducks. The difference being that the kayaks are made of synthetics and weigh a lot less than the sneakboxes, even though the sneakboxes were lightweight as wooden boats go.
Still, no one has solved the shuttle-driving problem for floating downstream.
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I always find it amazing that you could supposedly sneak up on ducks and get within range. The only way that can be done here is illegal, and that is by using an outboard. For some reason the sound must disorient them at times as you can run right up on them before they fly. I've never done this, as it is an expedient way to get a room in the house of many doors, but I have run up on them many times without a gun in the boat. When I am drifting, the instant I come into view as I round a bend, the ducks that see me are in the air without a split second's delay. Keep in mind that I am in full camouflage .............hands, face, everything ......... and am motionless except for the movement of the kayak drifting with the current. Woodies, big ducks, doesn't matter, they're gone at my sight whether at 25 yards or 250.
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Really? How is your private property any different than their private property? There are literally millions of acres of land that are closed to hunting or fishing. A lot of it is public land that supposedly belongs to all of us taxpayers. In most cases, access was permitted in the past and is now denied, whether by private owners, acts of Congress, or Presidential Executive Orders.
Larry Brown said that the rich people who bought the land bordering streams ought to know about the law. Obviously, they do, and they are trying to change it. Not saying I agree or am happy about that. But that's the way it is in most of the country. Keith, they SHOULD have known when they bought the property; may or may not have, however. Rich folks can certainly afford lawyers to advise them on such matters, but even lawyers make mistakes. Trying to change the law . . . that's certainly within their rights. But they're still bound to follow it unless or until it changes.
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Here is a clip from Virginia’s Constitution
Section 4. Right of the people to hunt, fish, and harvest game.
The people have a right to hunt, fish, and harvest game, subject to such regulations and restrictions as the General Assembly may prescribe by general law.
Question for VA residents, especially northern VA: I seem to recall, from my time there (now 40+ years ago) that you could not fish the Potomac from the VA shore without a MD license. Something along the lines of the entire river being part of MD. And of course you couldn't fish from the VA shore without a VA license. Always wondered if one could get around that by wading into the river from the VA shore having only a MD license.
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