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Newlyn1 #42931 06/07/07 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Newlyn1
Thanks for the suggestions. I like the look of the Husqvarna 51.
Is there any rule of thumb to determine whether a particular hammer gun will handle modern loads?


You need to ask a lot of questions before you buy. They are no different than when you purchase any older sxs. You should always ask about the hammers. Make sure they are not loose, that the hammers and their screws match. Check the function of the hammers when you get the gun. Get a 3 day inspection period. Have a good smith give it a going over. In particular the barrel wall thickness should be measured at this time. Not just the chokes but the full length of the barrels.

The 51 had a long history of manufacture. Look for one made after WWII.
If you find a gun, get the serial number and go here to date it:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/~fdwjr/SerialNr/YoM.html



Here is my restored M51 12ga.


You can try:
http://www.sarcoinc.com/husqvarnas.html
Make sure you ask a lot of questions. Some of the guns here are in need of a little fixing up. At least that was my experience with them. Although they were very forth coming with information.

Also:
http://www.kebcollc.com/
Although their website does not show any at the moment. Give them a call. I have dealt with them and found them to be honest.

Also check on GunsAmerica. There seem to be a number of dealers there with a large supply of Husqvarna shotguns. Be prepared to see a lot of Lefaucheux actions.

This forum is devoted to all guns Husqvarna
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=41

The Husqvarna is a good hammergun for your 1st. It will be a reliable shooter that you do not have to worry about. If you decide to open the chokes you will not worry about "ruining" the gun's value. I use mine with heavy pheasant loads (Fiocchi Golden Pheasant, 1-3/8 ounce) with no problem. I would have no worry using 75mm bismuth duck loads with it.

Pete

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Originally Posted By: PeteM
If you find a gun, get the serial number and go here to date it:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/~fdwjr/SerialNr/YoM.html
Pete


The link is still working, but will change shortly to http://www.weiss-trading.com/ or http://www.weiss-trading.com/HVAE.htm .
In the section History you will find the Year of Manufacturing (YoM)tool.

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fdwjr #42949 06/08/07 07:31 AM
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Fritz,

Good to hear from you again. Thank you for your Husqvarna site. It has helped many people.

Pete

Newlyn1 #42954 06/08/07 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Newlyn1
Thanks for the suggestions. I like the look of the Husqvarna 51.

Is there any rule of thumb to determine whether a particular hammer gun will handle modern loads?


An older hammer gun could cost you some money to get it going...don't buy one that you can't recoupe your money on.

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"Modern loads" generally means factory, readily available at the hardware store shells. Basically, you need to stick with modern guns to shoot those. There are a number of reasons including proof pressures, wear and tear on the gun and on yourself, as well as chamber size. As the owner of multiple hammer guns, I can tell you that owning a modern gun is much cheaper in the long run. I love my SIACE for its reliability and the fact that it shoots just fine with whatever I put through it. No worries and it's not too light weight.

Each of my 1870s-1890s hammer guns requires a relationship with my gunsmith and special formulae for care and feeding. Even my Husqvarna is happiest with RST and other low pressure loads.

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ken/kebco #43296 06/11/07 12:24 AM
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Ken,

As I understand it, at one time Beretta entered into a contract with this "MI VAL" to produce guns patterned after their line. However, the quality was inferior. If I am mistaked, hopefully some one will correct me.

By the way, I got a few of those European slings you offered. Very nice and a great price. Thanks. I need to contact you about another matter...

Pete

PeteM #43303 06/11/07 05:01 AM
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Any idea where MI-Val was made? Is MI-VAL Italian?

Pete, glad you liked the slings. I think they are the best bang for the buck in a Euro type sling. If you need to contact me you can email me at ken@kebcollc.com or call 301-460-9563, or email me your phone and I will call.

ken/kebco #43316 06/11/07 08:53 AM
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Here's the same Beretta priced alittle closer to what it's worth.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73801614

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MI-VAL (MInganti VALtrompia) was an Italian motorcycle company that was owned by Beretta Holding.

Pete

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