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Doverham #428167 12/01/15 06:10 PM
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An FTF is not to be confused with an FTP (failure to punctuate)
Though to those around the event they both seem interminable.


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HomelessjOe #428170 12/01/15 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
The gun might just need a good cleaning. I'd be looking at the firing pin and firing pin spring.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Winchester-33573/Shotguns-42603/12-41794.htm?page=7


That was my original thought, but I had the gun checked out, cleaned and lubed about a year ago when my father gave it to his grandson. The gun has definitely seen a lot of use so maybe the firing pin or spring has finally given out.

I am still surprised that a light hammer strike could cause a hang fire. With other guns, I have had a few shells that did not detonate on the first hammer strike but did after the gun was re-cocked and the trigger pulled a second time. After this experience, I am going to take my time removing "dud" shells from the chamber.


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Doverham #428173 12/01/15 06:55 PM
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I'm thinking it's a delayed primer strike...a mechanical malfunction as mentioned.... not a light primer strike followed by delayed ignition. If such were possible, I'm pretty sure I would have witnessed it once over the last 20 years watching hundreds of target shooters immediately open their guns after a misfire. Can't say I've ever seen anyone wait even 10 seconds before doing so.

If I had that gun in hand, and it went "click" on a live shell, I'd extract it immediately and bet there was no mark on the primer.


Doverham #428176 12/01/15 07:23 PM
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How many times have we heard the infamous, "Benelli click"?
Probably the same thing.


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Doverham #428243 12/02/15 05:01 PM
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I find this puzzling; I have a gun which had, for a time (it is now sorted) a light strike on the left barrel. I had a considerable number of misfires (gun used for clays on a range) and NEVER a hang fire. When it missed, I did wait a while before opening, but it NEVER fired late.
I have heard of hang fires of a fraction of a second, though never experienced one myself. I have also a few times on different guns had (and seen others have) the primer only firing, which has left the wad in the barrel - needing pushing out with a rod.

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Doverham #428283 12/03/15 08:55 AM
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Could it be a ammo storage issue? Was the ammo straight from the store or from your stock? Same store for all or different stores?

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Chuck H #428428 12/04/15 05:19 PM
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John - your experience is similar to mine, which is why I found it so disconcerting when it happened, not once but three times.

Chuck - each time different ammo. Once Federal supplied by a gun club, and twice with store bought brands (B&P and something else). All very odd.


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ClapperZapper #428435 12/04/15 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
How many times have we heard the infamous, "Benelli click"?
Probably the same thing.


I've had one since they came out and I've never heard it.

HomelessjOe #432405 01/12/16 01:39 PM
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I sent the gun out to Jim Wiegand. A worn part was causing the hammer to hang after the trigger was pulled. Moving the fore-end (like when you might while lowering the gun) was enough to release the hammer - and bang!

Problem solved. Thanks for the comments.


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Doverham #432457 01/12/16 04:56 PM
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Glad you got it fixed,it would be a tough gun to use if you couldn't find a reason for the problem
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