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My problem with 'put and take' and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit to, but my bird dogs are not broke enough to handle those birds in a gentlemanly fashion.......they catch them. Any bird dog man knows that is the fastest thing in the world to set a bird dog back. I don't field trial so I don't give a hoot if my dogs are that well broke....they can't catch wild birds. I've got a little pointer that is an outstanding grouse dog, but not totally broke, at least not to wing and definitely not to shot. A friend of mine talked me into entering his Ruffed grouse society 'fun trial'. What a joke. We used pheasants, hens that supposedly don't run as bad; well my fine little grouse dog caught 2 of them, and I'm sure she would have caught more had I given her the chance. Problem is....in this day and age about all a lot of people have are put and take. Given that scenario, it's not all bad given the poor alternative which is NO hunting. Except that it isn't hunting, buzz. It's just shooting a feathered target. The dog handlers know within a few yards where all the birds are. They just act like they're hunting them. SRH
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John,
I just returned to my place in West Texas tonite. I was here in Sept and saw more quail in one day than I had all of the last 5 years.
I'm hoping for a great year!!!!
Bob Jurewicz
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I agree 100% Stan, but I have wild birds to hunt. A lot of folks, for a lot of reasons, don't. If I didn't have wild birds, I'd maybe or maybe not, quit. But that's just me. I don't blame folks who don't have wild game, for doing the liberated game hunts. Also, some folks are physically impaired and have no other choice. I'm glad they have liberated hunts available for that purpose. If I was in such a situation, liberated game would be an alternative I would consider, next to not ever going.
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I might add that most people I've came across that hunted canned birds wouldn't put in the effort or time needed to hunt wild birds.
The one time I hunted canned quail....I told the dog handler that if I ever came back I'd bring me tennis racket and just swat them.
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Part of a gamekeepers job is to stuff as many fertilized eggs as the hen will sit under her. That's how grey partridge were propagated during the time of the big shoots.
When we raised stocking pheasants, we always strived to trap a wild hen to set eggs, and rear the poults.
Now I just do quail for the dogs, and our holiday table.
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Stan thank you for the clarification.
I wonder what it takes in terms of rearing, releasing schedules, habitat improvement, to offer quality quail hunting. And if there would be enough takers to make it worth while. I think I got my answer.
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In New Jersey the state Division of Fish and Game releases pheasants on wildlife management areas. I can tell you that after a few days of being out in the field and hunted the remaining birds become quite difficult to hunt. I will go out on a limb and say they become rather wild. The key to a real hunt in NJ is not going out on release days and wait until perhaps mid week. Then birds are much more crafty.
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In New Jersey the state Division of Fish and Game releases pheasants on wildlife management areas. I can tell you that after a few days of being out in the field and hunted the remaining birds become quite difficult to hunt. I will go out on a limb and say they become rather wild. The key to a real hunt in NJ is not going out on release days and wait until perhaps mid week. Then birds are much more crafty. I agree there doesn't take much for an animal to revert back even a domesticated dog and feral dog can be a real threat.
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In New Jersey the state Division of Fish and Game releases pheasants on wildlife management areas. I can tell you that after a few days of being out in the field and hunted the remaining birds become quite difficult to hunt. I will go out on a limb and say they become rather wild. The key to a real hunt in NJ is not going out on release days and wait until perhaps mid week. Then birds are much more crafty. Well, it's sure not like that in Georgia. I live near a place that has "Continental Pheasant Shoots", where they throw pen raised pheasants up and then shoot them at whatever station they cross. Because the shooters are usually not adept, many pheasants are not shot and "escape" the grounds. I see them wandering the shoulders of the highway until a hawk or coyote gets them. If I liked pheasant meat I could have plenty just by stopping my truck and killing them on the sides of the highway. Between the coyotes and the other predators they don't last long around heah'. SRH
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My Grand-Daddy once decided to raise some pheasants on the farm I'm now caring for. He wired off the windows on a tenant house and bought a bunch of pheasant biddies. They were growing just fine until they began to mature. Then they began killing the weaker ones and cannibalizing them.
He said he couldn't stand the sight of what was happening and opened the doors to let them all go. For weeks the pheasants ran up and down the ditches along the red clay roads. Folks came from all over to shoot pheasants. Far as I know they got'em all because I've never seen one since...Geo
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