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"Ruhrgebiet" means Ruhr area, or the Ruhr River Valley. Kruup was located in the "Ruhr". "Bochum", I believe was a city, so "Bochumer Verein" would be The Bochum Assn.
Xausa, If this is wrong straighten me out.
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Mike, this is correct. The Bochumer Verein was a contrahent to Krupp, making steel as well: http://www.jahrhunderthalle-bochum.de/de...tahlfabrikation [url=http://www.jahrhunderthalle-bochum.de/de/besucher/historie/infotafeln-westpark/der-bochumer-verein-fuer-bergbau-und-gussstahlfabrikation][/url] Kind regards, Gunwolf
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Thanks to you both! My guesses were OK (this time), except for the "Bochumer" name.
My only association with "verein" is a fascination with the "Turners," a largely forgotten chapter of American shooting history.
I assume the caliber marking in English and the "Made in Germany" show that this gun was made for import into the US from the get-go.
Were .30-30/7.62x52R rifles ever made in Germany for European use?
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Yes, of course - after the war, american calibers became modern and the proven german calibers were buried in oblivion.... Today it's sometimes contrary.
@Günter: of course you are right with the Bochumer Verein bought by Krupp after WW II.
The BW for Baden-Württemberg is questionable, because the Sauer of that time were built in Schleswig Holstein and I think also got proof there in Kiel.
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While doing some internet searching in regard to this gun, I came across various videos and noticed in several of them that the Germans take great care in closing their guns, as seen at the 22 second mark of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd1fIXPzwU8, slowly guiding the top lever closed with finger pressure rather than letting the lever snap into place. Myself, I've always closed my barrels gently but I allow the top lever to close of its own accord. Is there an advantage to the German method?
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Well, in this Krieghoff Video there is shown the noiseless advantage of their breakdown rifle over a bolt action rifle. Lautlos means noiseless.
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No apologies needed. I'm always happy to have the benefit of more knowledgeable participants. Even at age 76 I'm capable of learning new tricks. My knowledge of German tends to be more literary than practical, and as I recall, Walther von der Vogelweide had nothing to say about the post War Krupp machinations.
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Very nice, what a great cal/gauge combo for America. I have a couple of combo guns I use for coyote hunting, 5.6x52R/12 ga and a 5.6x50R Mag/12 ga. my dedicated coyote drilling is a 6.5x58R/16ga.
Post some pics if you take it hunting.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Hunting is most certainly the intent. It will be in the woods for the 2016 deer season.
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