A box of those Alcan 10's ready to go is picture perfect. My Alcan hulls are 12 ga. I think the Alcan brass hulls are the best. Heavy wall and seem to last forever. Did you drill the primer pocket for American 209's? I have thought about using the proper size drill bit and a pin vise to use our American primers. I usually keep them dry and can wait a day or two to clean them at my leisure. May have to get in the habit of putting them into a wet jug and start the cleaning early. If those turned hulls were not so expensive I'd purchase some for my 10 ga. Just finished roll crimping 50 7.5 red papers and think I'll load another 50 with 8.5 in orange papers for some black powder clays fun.