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Hopefully not too dumb of a question but were the Fox HE's all made with 3"chambers? I'm asking because I measured one up the other day and my Brownells 12 ga. chamber gauge actually stopped
at about 2 1/2" which of course can't be correct so I'm thinking
the gun was tight chambered and the gauge was stopping short of the cones.Any comments??
Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid,than open it and confirm.
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They were made with 2 3/4" & 3" chambers.
The chambers can be tight, though, and throw off some drop-in gauges.
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If the HE is not marked as having 3" chambers on the barrel flats it should indeed be chambered 2 3/4". All other things being equal, 3" guns are valued higher. Here is an example from my photos. Notice anything else interesting about it?  SRH P.S. My first comment is in error. According to a search I just did on the Fox Collectors site, nearly half the 3" chambered guns examined are not marked as such. Don't know if that is because many have been lengthened over the years, or if some original 3" chambered guns were not marked as such. I would think the former, but not sure.
Last edited by Stan; 11/10/15 08:55 AM.
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And there is no "barrels not guaranteed" stamping either. Wow-lucky you-have the irst Fox HE my all-time shotgunning hero once owned. I still wonder how Nash left the gun in its case on the hood-fender area of a car back in Dec 1948, but that's part of the iconic mystery of "Bo Whoop"-- congrats!!
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The 'barrels not warranted or guaranteed' to produce certain pattern percentages at given ranges was stamped later in production. Personally I like that stamping. Our favorite Southern dentist picked up nice Super Fox for price of a plain Sterlingworth because the gun show guy though the gun was somehow defective. Now that was a good thing.
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There's more that can be learned for some and clarified for others from Stan's pic of Bo Whoop's barrel flats . . . I have often read in posts concerning Fox barrel weights as only being 1-2-3-4. However, that's not totally accurate . . . from charts of factory blueprints dated 1912 McIntosh told us that the 20 gauges were given a slightly different number sequence---0-2-3-4, as opposed to the 1-2-3-4 sequence used for 12 and 16 gauges. McIntosh also went on to say that in about 1922, the factory added a fifth 12-ga. class, No. 0, for the Super Fox, as seen stamped on the barrels just ahead of the water table of Bo Whoop's barrels above.
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I am pretty sure that many HE guns that letter and measure as 3" guns are not marked 3". What I can't understand is all the Fox advertising hype about shooting 3" shells in Super Foxes, when many did not have 3" chambers. The advertising seemed to address all HE owners.
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