Originally Posted By: tut
Originally Posted By: Dewey Vicknair
Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
What a schmuck-a-della ad- The sellerdoesn't know from Shinola about Fox guns- #2 or 2#-either way- doesn't mean a second barrel set- it is a weight stamp--Fox didn't mark frame size, as did Parker, or have two basic frames per gauge, R and FW, as did LC Smith- but they did mark most of their barrels with a stamped number- 1 through 4- I have two AH Fox shotguns- A 20 gauge Sterlingworth made in Utica in 1933- 28" barrels with a 4# stamp- But my 12 grade B with Krupp Fluid Steel barrels has no weight stamp number-and are an even 29 &1/2" long- full choke in each tube, uncut-Strange!!



I wouldn't go pronouncing Schmuck-ness just yet. The location of the single number 2 (below the serial number) does, in fact indicate that this is a second barrel. The weight stamps on Fox barrels are on the tube itself, immediately ahead of the barrel flats ON EACH TUBE. The weight stamp digit is also always stamped with the number in line with the axis of the bore. The weight stamp is never found on the barrel flats. It is very common to find Fox barrels with no visible weight stamps since the tubes were stamped before they were joined and filed up. Very often the weight stamps were simply obliterated during this process.


Dewey nailed it. BTW, there is no order card on this gun per the Fox folks on the collector site.
What is an order card? Is it worthwhile to get one for my two AH Fox shotguns? Is there a difference in order cards from the Philadelphia made Fox guns, as to the later ones (like my 20 gauge) mad in Utica under the aegis of Savage-Stevens gruppen? Both my Fox guns have double triggers and ejectors, a hunting pal has a 16 DE Fox made in Philly with the Kautsky (Pollack?) designed single selective trigger- Mr. Vicknair stated problems with that design-best of all are the Elmer Miller designed SSt'd on the Ithaca NID guns--IMO


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