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I was thinking of ordering up some MagTech 12ga 2.5" Brass Shells a)for fun and b) to use up my surplus of true Black Powder and c) to learn a bit about loading brass shells.

However I got to wondering if there is a problem with the 2.5" shells in a OEM 12ga WC Scott with 2 5/8" Chamber from 1909.

I did not plan on using a plastic shot cup but a fiber wad, shot and then an overshot card. Just want to be sure the lead shot doesn't have an adverse impact on the chamber end since it will not be in a protected shot cup. Thank you!

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Not a problem. It's good that you don't want to use 1-piece plastic wads in MagTech brass, because they are oversized hulls and plastic wads won't work.


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Thanks Jim

Will I need both an over powder wad AND a lubed or non lubed fiber wad?

The BPI catalog suggested I need both but most reports online don't seem to use the overpower wad

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I'm not very experienced in BP, but I would use a nitro card (NC) in addition to felt wad(s) and an over shot card (OSC).


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The over powder wad will prevent the powder from being contaminated by the lubed wad, especially in hot weather when the lube tends to get soft.


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Plastic wads and B.P. are a bad mix as they tend to melt a bit and mess the barrels up more. Best choice is to get 13 bore lubed felt wads as sold for muzzle loaders. Lagopus.....

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Look at Circle Fly Wads.

Here's the sizing chart http://www.circlefly.com/html/wad_sizing_chart.html

Even if you buy from Ballistic Products the info above is helpful.

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Also be aware that loading the Magtech hulls can be a bit time consuming as you cannot remove the primers (large pistol primers are used) with your press unless you make special dies, assuming you have one. If not, never mind, just use a punch that is ground so you can feel the center of the old primer and knock it into a recess. I use a RCBS tool to seat the new primer; I'm not sure they still sell it, but it's a simple cam that drives the priming tool and you have to use a 12 Ga. shell holder. If there is a better priming tool I'd like to see it as this is a bit fiddly.

I use a 11 ga. card under the lubed 11 gauge wad and one over, as well as an overshot card that I've sealed with silicate of soda in the past, but now use 10 gauge cards because they are big enough to stay put just by friction. A dab of Duco cement or caulk or nail polish if you're concerned about carrying them in the field. I don't have a press to pack it all in, so I use a wooden dowel that I turned that just fits in the case and lets me put some weight on it. I use an old .45-70 cartridge that I cut down to get the exact load of black powder that I want (4.3 cc) and it works good for me. I also dip the shot charge.

I've been tempted to buy the much more expensive brass hulls that use the normal 209 primers, but can't find them anymore. Rocky Mountain Cartridge MAY sell them, but their web site doesn't mention the primer size and they want $7.50 each for the hulls.

Have fun and stay safe.


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Wagon Willie Wrote, "I've been tempted to buy the much more expensive brass hulls that use the normal 209 primers, but can't find them anymore. Rocky Mountain Cartridge MAY sell them, but their web site doesn't mention the primer size and they want $7.50 each for the hulls."

That's a $1.50 more than I paid 2 years ago. RMC hulls are lathe turned to your dimensions and I have a bunch in 12, 16, 20 and 28 GA, all of which use 209 primers.


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Thanks, Jim. I guess I'll stick to the Magtechs. $7.50 each is too much to just save a few minutes time. I enjoy loading them, so it's all good.


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