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If all I had was a 28 gauge then I might be forced to use 1 oz. loads depending on the environment and quarry.
That said, thankfully, a 28 gauge is not all I own. I have options and would much prefer to shoot a 1 oz. load in a light 12 gauge.
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Cactus Jack thought they were great in his 28-gauge Eusabio Arrizaga. These have been sitting around my gun room for a couple of decades -- ![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Winchester/One%20Ounce%2028-gauge%20Shells_zpsilwvh2ow.jpeg) I did shoot a few Pheasants with these when I first received my RBL-28. I found a box, too. I think these roll-crimped papers have been around awhile.... ![](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/crowstalker/shells/DSC_0197.jpg)
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Just to put the recoil of the 28 ga 1oz load in perspective:
The old Winchester 1 oz that was loaded in AA CF hulls was listed @ 1125 fps. (current 1oz loading is 1200fps). Assuming a 5 3/4 lb. gun, recoil energy is 13.4 ft./lbs.
A 12 ga Federal Prairie Storm 1 1/4 oz lead @ 1500 fps & assuming a 8.0 lb. gun has a recoil energy of 26.7 ft pounds.
I find it interesting that a lot of people (not me) find the Prairie Storm load just wonderful for pheasant & don't complain about the recoil.
My feeling is that 1oz of shot is just about perfect for most upland hunting & that's what I normally shoot in 20, 16, & 12 ga guns. I no longer own a 28 but if I did it would be close to a 6lb. gun & I would shoot 1oz in it for most upland hunting & the 3/4oz 1200fps load for clay targets.
Way off topic on the pointing dog issue but I've got to say that I agree with the statement that a flushing dog can be more efficient under some conditions but for me it's more about the experience than it is birds in the bag.
If you don't hunt pointing dogs you will not experience the thrill of a dog on point or better yet, a brace of dogs down with one on point & one backing.
When I was in S. Dakota a couple years ago, I had flown in and not brought a gun. Nope. No 410. Just went to visit with my friends. So, the family insisted I go out with them. Someone handed me a 870 12ga, a vest, and some shells. I didn't shoot for a couple fields as others shot a few roosters. I was walking on the side of a berm on the flank of a cornfield and a rooster headed my way. I fired. I never saw the rooster fold, but others said I hit it. I was busy falling down the berm into the ditch. Prairie Storm! They had a good laugh. I traded out the rest of those shells for some cheapos. On the dogs, I find both to be really a thrill and enjoyable.
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I own a 28gauge Higham SxS made for and used by Ms.Oakley when she visited Shropshire, Pheasant shooting . There is no way I will ever subject it to an ounce load. Three quarters of an ounce is plenty, if you have trouble with 3/4 oz, could I suggest that you consider taking shooting lessons??? ( Smiley)
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I have to agree that shooting 1 oz. loads in a 28 gauge is something that also is not for me. Years ago when younger I shot a lot of skeet with a Beretta 28 gauge BL4 of which I still have. Shot mostly #9's 3/4 oz. I would hate to brag on the number of pen raised pheasants I killed with it over my dogs back then using this load. The Beretta BL4 weighs 6 lbs.8 ozs. with 26" barrels.
I never shot a 12 gauge until about 13 years ago and for the last 3 years + only shoot 3/4 oz. with a 12 gauge. I use these loads for skeet, sporting clays. 5 stand and trap. Like stated, they do their part if I do mine.
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JDW, you used 9's on pheasants? It'll certainly kill them at fairly close range, but that's a lot of lead to pick out of the meat.
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Larry, amen to that. I was fortunate in that I knew of a few people that really wanted them, so most were given away to these people.
David
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