Brian,

I have a Dogtra collar. I always found them to be a reliable company and have had little to no trouble with my collar. As for the need on Springers here is my opinion. I have run Springers for the last 25 years. I train regularly with one of the best training pros in the country. We never ever use collars to train. The only reason i have one and use it while hunting is as a precaution because we are close to people and roads. I use the locator beep once in a while in heavy cover also. I cant remember the last time I used the shock feature. nothing can replace good training. Not sure where in NY you are but if you are near north Jersey you could come to a training session with us. You can learn a lifetime of great stuff from a pro in just a couple of hours. PM me if you would ever be interested.

Bill G.